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The constitution is indeed far too liberal from what I hear. Maybe it is a positive thing if it is voted down. I hear that is the reason why the french who will vote no will vote no and that will be mainly from the left.
Interesting to see what happens.
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:23
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Yeah adn we don't drink wine and eat croissants and have smelly armpits like you bastards. We don't even like you. We don't hate you, but we don't exactly like you. If there are folks we like, it could be the northern countries as a whole, and maybe some baltic people like Estonia we feel close to etc. But we don't have common identity, not even us.
You sound like Rooskies. They all must of thought that the eastern european countries liked being under the iron fist. **** they made a living out of it! And now it's surprising nobody likes them in those areas, and in some places blatant racism can ben seen, even hostility. You tell them they had common identity. You'll get your little commie rat faces smashed in. And that's just a small area.
Try to get it, and you are closer to being effective. You have to work with real life to become effective. SO you can have realistic plans. When you live in laalaaland, based on your own leftist circle jerk, you're nothing but sack of rotten plague cancer potatoes.
I wouldn't mind if you just got with the whole collectivity thing and all those ideas and things and started healing the places up. Instead you want to make everyone poor, a big ass welfare states for everyone, AND LIMITING OUR FREEDOM. That's why you are bastards, cowards, racistrs and ****ers and that's why I will equip myself and start attacking your brothers in strikes that will be brutal, painful and invisible, anywhere, anytime, I choose the fight the method and the outcome.
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Bereta_Eder
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Originally posted by Pekka
" In Poland, the European plans of the France-Germany coupe are quite widely feared as a new kind of Soviet Union."
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That sounds to me as the political elites playing that "card" to get the people more opposed to the EU and then "cash in" from that feeling at the european council meetings by being more intransigent.
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Originally posted by Spiffor
It is possible. However, I think that there is a fertile ground for the idea to develop. Chirac has been extremely arrogant with the new EU countries, and the Poles' most symbolic European project (mentioning Christianty in the constitution) has been shot down by the French.
In the EU, it's easy not to see the concessions done by the others. If you ask the average Frenchlman, he'll be convinced that Poland does whatever it wants in order to steal our jobs and our growth. |
Coming in the subject of negotiations attitudes I do think that the old members did have a negotiating sense heavily based on compromise, which is what kept the EU going. Not all of them and not all at the same level but most. The new EU countries do act sometimes without that spirit in the negotiations. But I think that's something that is acquired after participating long in those meetings. It's not like the EU is not a shameless endless mindboggling eastern bazaar but there was and is to an extend a definite spirit of compromise in the negotiations based on the assumption that a shared position is for the wider interest between the old member states.
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Bereta_Eder
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It will be a surprise if it is a yes.
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27-05-2005 16:38
It'll be like a hobby of mine. We'll see.. we'll see.. too bad it's not a crime to do it in here.. fines maximum.. 
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