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Originally posted by Agathon
The French Revolution? |
A copy of the American Revolution, only more brutal.
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notyoueither
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Aug 2001
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In rough date order. I couldn't pick from a few of them which was number one.
The Peace of the Sword, Monguls of the 13th and 14th centuries
They did more than pillage and burn. The Monguls created a path between the Orient and the Mediterranean where trade could begin to blossom again. Trade, rich people, surplus cash and the ability to fund thinkers and artisans would become important elements in Italy before long.
The Caliphate in Spain and the Fall of Constantinople, 1453
What the devil could they have to do with each other? Well, both the struggle for Spain and the rise of the Ottomans resulted in 'lost' knowledge of the Romans and Greeks returning to Italy and Northern Europe. Humanism, the Renaissance, the Reformation, the Enlightenment... they follow like ducklings in a line following their mother.
The Reformation and the Printing Press, 15th and 16th centuries
These aren't two events, but an event and the consequences. The power of the Catholic clergy to be the keepers of the Word was broken by the advent of movable type, and into the breach poured more cheaply produced literature. Pluralistic societies and literate populations would be the eventual outcomes.
The Revolutions, 1776 and 1789
Not two disconnected events, but two closely tied movements. One would succeed and survive in the safety of isolation while the other was smothered by the hostilities of neighbours and the measures adopted to combat them. Still, the seeds of change that first sprouted in Boston and Philadelphia then spread to Paris and Marseilles were planted and would later germinate in fertile soil in Europe and around the world.
Those Damned Brits and Their Infernal Contraptions, 18th century
The steam engine put the world on the path to mechanisation and we've been prisoners of machines ever since. It should be revealing that the trend began as a way to make coal mines more profitable. Is it significant that machines were employed to get fuel for yet more machines?
The Seige of Port Arthur, 1904-05
An Asian nation met and defeated a European power in full on war on land and at sea. The lesson was not lost on many people who lived outside of European societies. Europeans could be beaten by a determined and skillful effort with proper equipment.
A Century of Warfare, 1914-1989
The echoes of the shots fired in Sarajevo in 1914 would not subside for some 75 years. First old orders would be torn down as hereditary rulers were toppled in Vienna, Berlin, Moscow, and Istanbul. Then colonial empires would be dissolved when the power of the French and British empires were sapped during a second round. Coming full circle, the heirs of the Romanovs in the Kremlin found their better system was not sufficient to the task of confronting and competing with the great democracies that emerged from complacency in 1914 to preeminence in 1990.
The Independence of India, 1947
Not the event so much as the tactics. A peaceful man led his people using peaceful means to overcome the armed opposition of the British Empire, and in the process won their freedom and helped create the greatest democracy, if measured by the sheer weight of humanity involved, on Earth. Others would follow the example, from Alabama to Johannesburg to Berlin to Manilla, and demonstrate that people hold the power and peaceful change can be won, even sometimes in the face of the most vicious regimes.
The Apollo program and Apollo 11, 20 July 1969
A movement and an event. Man is not imprisoned on this rock as a little titan ala Prometheus. Since the beginnings of time man has wandered, and explored. The future will be no different as man will not accept the ends of the world as the end of the journey.
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Apolyton Duke of Off-Topic
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Originally posted by notyoueither
The Independence of India, 1947
Not the event so much as the tactics. A peaceful man led his people using peaceful means to overcome the armed opposition of the British Empire, and in the process won their freedom and helped create the greatest democracy, if measured by the sheer weight of humanity involved, on Earth. Others would follow the example, from Alabama to Johannesburg to Berlin to Manilla, and demonstrate that people hold the power and peaceful change can be won, even sometimes in the face of the most vicious regimes. |
If the Brits were, in fact, vicious, Gandhi would have been dead before his movement got started.
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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:36
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Originally posted by DanS
I would put Sputnik and Apollo as among the top 10. Possible #1. They ushered in the Space Age, which we are now experiencing. The relative importance of these two milestones increases as more happens off Earth and people live off-Earth. Nowadays, only 2 do and there is only a small amount of activity (like Hubble, GPS, and satellite television), but within the next thousand years, I think a lot more will happen there.
Regarding the revolutions, etc., I would just lump it all in as the Enlightenment and put it near the top. Also, I would lump World War I and World War II together and put it near the top. |
I'm going to have to strongly disagree.
The space race is useless. Put a man on the moon. Big deal. We now have a bunch of worthless rocks. We have a space station that really is a piece of crap.
The laws of physics cannot be altered. The speed of light will never be exceeded. We will never get out of this solar system (to another solar system)
Sure the space race helped develop ICBM's, but they were never used. They did shape diplomacy, but in no major way.
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Vince278
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1. Man on the moon (undoubted pinnacle of human achievement).
2. Powered flight.
3. Discovery of the Americas.
4. The Renaissance.
5. Atomics (Energy and The Bomb).
6. Magna Carta.
7. Computer (and Internet).
8. General and Special Relativity.
9. United Nations.
10. My birth.
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Vince278
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Originally posted by Dissident
not another man on the moon. How is that significant? It was symbolic, but not particularly significant. |
Man has looked at the moon ever since he had eyes and wondered. It was the ultimate triumph of human determination and spirit and a culmination of history. A giant leap for mankind.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:36
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Bismark's rejection of GB as an ally and Germany's dreadnaught arms race with GB. Also, Wilhelm's efforts to piss off the Brits.
Germany's defeat in WW1 can be traced to these decisions. If Germany had won then Hitler would have remained an obscure corporal from Austria and WW2 in europe would not have occured. Had WW2 in europe not occured, then the Soviets would not have taken eastern europe, possibly the SU might not exist as Germany would have no reason to cut a deal with Lenin, because France would have quickly fallen. So... no cold war. Also, no nuke arms race since there would be no manhatten project.
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MACEDONIA - It's the name of the sovereign country to the north of Greece
Apr 2000
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Mine, in no particular order - These aren't really events, but more like series of events.
-The rise of Ghengis Khan and subsequent mongol expansion: the conquest of China, and the decimation of the arabs in the middle east and eastern europe.
-The arrival of the Ottomans, with it's direct consequenses - e.g. the destruction of the byzantine empire.
-The protestant reformation in europe.
-The discovery and conquest of the new world by europe.
-The renaissance.
-The rise of education, rational thinkers, mostly in europe.
-The french revolution, which is basically the beginning of the modern times.
-The rise of socialist thought, with all of it's good and bad consequences.
-The Meiji restoration, which has created modern Japan from an isolationist island nation, and influenced world politics and economics from that time on.
-The fall of the Berlin wall, which marks the true end of the millenium. ( unless something really big will happen in the next 20 years)
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03-06-2005 09:58
Beat me to it.
Compared to what? It is a significant event. I realize however that personal bias may creep its way into many responses.
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