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1.) Protestant Reformation (Years)
Challenged people to think for themselves, broke the church's control over the faith/thoughts of people. Provided an alternative powerbase in Europe. Led to mercantilism and the expansion of European Power.

2.) Fall of Constantinople (1453)
Forced the seeking of alternative trade passages.

3.) World War I (1914-1919)

4.) World War II (1939-1945)

5.) The Cold War (1947-1990)

6.) Foundation of the United States of America [Struggle for Independence] (1774-1791)
...Providing a model for all future revolutionary movements- IE the French Revolution, later Latin American revolutions, showing that such a thing could be done. Also, like the founding of Islam and the establishment of a continent-spanning Caliphate, the eventual evolution of Democracy and the creation of a United States wholly independent from Britain was not inevitable. Finally, America, as the Dominant Superpower has destroyed governments, set up puppets and generally interfered in financial markets and everything everywhere.

7.) Invention of the Printing Press
Such a method for the dissemination of ideas led to the ability of Martin Luther to spread his message to the people and gave heretics more ability to gain popular support. The printing Press was a major democratizing force in the world. As the power of the press became available, the plurality of voices began to effect the world on a much larger scale.

8.) Collapse of Colonialism/Imperialism (1919-1970s)
The destruction of the colonial order, beginning with the destruction of the Austrian and Ottoman Empires and disintegration of the Russian set into motion national indepence movements, power struggles, and wars that continue on today. Past Imperial policies, like Ghenghiz Khan's policies, changed the outlook and the progress of nations far and wide. The development of nearly all former colonial empires today has to deal with the past and confront westernization and globalization in the light of former wrongs.

9.) Ghenghiz Kahn and successive Mongol Conquests in Europe/Middle East/India/Asia (1258-1340)

10.) Establishment of Communism in Russia (1918)
Directly leading to the Cold War and providing the world with a practical example of a practical alternative to Capitalism. An imperial empire spanning two continents.

Some might cite the authoring of the Communist Manifesto- however, that particular book played almost no role in the Revolutions of 1848- and only took off as a worldwide movement/'threat' after the establishment of Leninist Russia and the 3rd International.

Note: These do seem to be remarkably Euro-centric with the exception of 2, 8 and 9 to some degree. Thus, I may have left off notable Asian events. This is due to ignorance, I must admit. However, what also must be acknowledged that it is the West who at one time controlled nearly the entire world due to colonialism and thus the experiences and effects of Western colonialism and imperialism can still be felt in all corners of the world today.

Also notable is that yes, the Chinese did invent paper, but that was done before 1005 CE and is outside the scope of this list. The invention of gunpowder is important, yes, but so is the invention of nuclear weapons, the cannon, and other military advancements that completely altered situations. I tried to keep this list free of inventions save that of those related to learning. Thus, the Printing Press is allowed whereas war-inventions are not.


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I was going to create a similar thread. Can I create my a list though, going all the way back to the beginning of homo sapiens sapiens in this thread?

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I think you repeated the wrong word

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I'd probably throw in something about the Discovery of America and the Renaissance and the discovery of the scientific method.

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Why don't you just start a copycat thread- or wait a week? Or could you maybe just limit yourself as I did? I mean, we don't want to get off topic on this thread and create non sequiturs or confuse people or the purpose.

I'd appreciate that MrFun

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zkribbler- hmm...

good point about the Colonization of America- maybe WWI should be replaced with that.

as for Renaissance and the Discovery of the Scientific Method... hmm... The SciMethod can fall under the Protestant Reformation since the thought processes could be said to have arisen from there... though Sir Francis Bacon was Catholic... ...

Renaissance, hmmm... Don't know if it was a worldwide important event. Just effected Europe really.

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I was going to create a similar thread. Can I create my a list though, going all the way back to the beginning of homo sapiens sapiens in this thread?


MrFun- make one, but have it limited to events within each poster's lifetime.

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Why don't you just start a copycat thread- or wait a week? Or could you maybe just limit yourself as I did? I mean, we don't want to get off topic on this thread and create non sequiturs or confuse people or the purpose.

I'd appreciate that MrFun



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I'd probably throw in something about the Discovery of America and the Renaissance and the discovery of the scientific method.


You mean when Amerindians discovered the Americas or are you referring to when Europeans arrived in the Americas?

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discovery of electrical generation

discovery of powered flight

discovery and use as gunpowder as an offensive weapon (instead of useless fireworks)

columbus discovering america. Sure he wasn't the first, but he got the ball rolling

the rest aren't really that important.

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10.) Establishment of Communism in Russia (1918)
Directly leading to the Cold War and providing the world with a practical example of a practical alternative to Capitalism. An imperial empire spanning two continents.


Except that it's pretty much failed in practice so far.

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1.) April 21, 2004:

MICHAEL JACKSON is indicted!!!! OMG! OMG! THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING EVAR!

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1) Man walks on the Moon
The pinnacle of human achievement, and undeniably what will be most significant to the next millenium.
2) Invention of the Printing Press
Allows widespread communication and archiving of ideas.
3) Protestant Reformation
Broke up the Church's hold and changed Europe
4) Discovery of the New World
Irreversably altered the future for millions of natives and added two new continents into the world arena producing a huge economical, technological, sociological boom.
5) Fall of Colonialism
Ended the era of European domination that #4 started. Affects billions of third worlders.
6) WWI
Culmination of the world pre-1914.
7) Russian Revolution
Brought Communism to the world forefront.
8) the Holocaust
WWII would not be the utmost significant war without it. Any war can boast fierce battles, new technologies, high casualties.
9) American Revolution
Brought democracy to the world forefront.
10) First slaves brought to America
Yeah, it's a very Americentric pick. But it ravaged Africa for centuries and still extends its legacy of racial hatred today to the US and the rest of the world.

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You mean when Amerindians discovered the Americas or are you referring to when Europeans arrived in the Americas?


The Amerindians arrived more than 1,000 years ago. It's only been ~ 500 years since the Europeans arrived and the Amerindians grumbled, "There goes the neighborhood."

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The Amerindians arrived more than 1,000 years ago. It's only been ~ 500 years since the Europeans arrived and the Amerindians grumbled, "There goes the neighborhood."


*cough*Vikings *cough*

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Dissident-
the viking discovery wasn't important in the sense that it didn't hearld a series of coloniations by many europan nations that colonized 2 entire continents

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discovery of electrical generation

discovery of powered flight

discovery and use as gunpowder as an offensive weapon (instead of useless fireworks)


In response to the others:
gunpowder- is out (I'm excluding military advances)

powered flight- tempting, but I don't see how it tops any of the above as being a culturally significant icon.

electrical generation- VERY important... but I can't see what I should kick.

It is very hard to list merely 10 important events. If people would allow me, I'd append the list, extending it to 11 and adding the discovery of Electrical Generation at the bottom.

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1) Man walks on the Moon

2) Invention of the Printing Press

3) Protestant Reformation

4) Discovery of the New World

5) Fall of Colonialism

6) WWI

7) Russian Revolution

8) the Holocaust

9) American Revolution

10) First slaves brought to America

Interesting list.
I cant see though how 10 is a worldwide important event?

As for the Holocaust- If you make that event WWII and cause it to be more inclusive, I'll agree with you. When I included WWII I included it becuase it led directly to the establishment of Israel, among other things. (as well as the Cold war)

As for man walking on the moon- could you maybe please explain to me how that is one of the 'most important events' and why taht tops electrical generation or mongol conquests or the printing press?

Thanks!

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Lots of people discovered America before Columbus: the Irish, the Vikings, the Phoenicians, the Japanese, the extraterrestrials. But they all successfully covered it up.

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Sorry DC. I edited in short explanations into my post afterwards

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The French Revolution?

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Lots of people discovered America before Columbus: the Irish, the Vikings, the Phoenicians, the Japanese, the extraterrestrials. But they all successfully covered it up.


That scared me. Before I finished reading your post, I thought you were serious.

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Agathon that is my #11.

But after 1815 what can you say really changed? It was revolutionary yes but it didn't stick. None of the lasting power that all the other significantia have.

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"Lots of people discovered America before Columbus: the Irish, the Vikings, the Phoenicians, the Japanese, the extraterrestrials. But they all successfully covered it up. "

From my understanding the extraterrestrials first arrived in weather balloons.

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I agree with your, DC, that the Reformation has to be #1.

I would add in the Top 10 (possible at #2):

Papal Revolution / Investiture Crisis (1073-1122) - the struggle over who gets to give bishops their regalia ended with the Pope basically having total control over Europe. Gregory VII, in this reforming era, also increased the bureaucratization of the Church (part of his new view of the Catholic Church) creating what could be called the first modern state. The victory of the Hildebrand (Gregory VII's real name) reforms under Callixtus II changed Europe forever. Without them, the Emperor would have continued to rule Christendom and who knows how the future would have turned out without a state system created by the Church which was a model to the emerging kingdoms.

Also the Crusades are pretty important .

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But after 1815 what can you say really changed? It was revolutionary yes but it didn't stick. None of the lasting power that all the other significantia have


It added economic equality to the list of things that people were prepared to butcher their lords and masters to secure. The American Revolution is really a revolution for formal freedom and equality rather than substantive measures.

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But after 1815 what can you say really changed? It was revolutionary yes but it didn't stick. None of the lasting power that all the other significantia have


It added economic equality to the list of things that people were prepared to butcher their lords and masters to secure. The American Revolution is really a revolution for formal freedom and equality rather than substantive measures.


I agree with aggie.

The French Revolution is regarded by many (if not most) historians as being of greater importance than the American revloution...

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I agree with aggie.


See... for two seconds you were a genius.

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I would put Sputnik and Apollo as among the top 10. Possible #1. They ushered in the Space Age, which we are now experiencing. The relative importance of these two milestones increases as more happens off Earth and people live off-Earth. Nowadays, only 2 do and there is only a small amount of activity (like Hubble, GPS, and satellite television), but within the next thousand years, I think a lot more will happen there.

Regarding the revolutions, etc., I would just lump it all in as the Enlightenment and put it near the top. Also, I would lump World War I and World War II together and put it near the top.

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