Apolyton Archive  |  Preserved copy of the Apolyton Civilization Site and its forums as they stood in September 2005. Read-only; nothing here can be posted to or replied to.  |  Forum index |  About this archive |  The 1998–2001 UBB forums
Today on Apolyton WARDELL INTERVIEW PROMO A.C.S. HISTORY CHAPTER 4 GET CIV4 /w FREE PLUS! A.C.S. PHOTO GALLERY GET A.O.M. V1.1
Apolyton Civilization Forums
main| civ2| civ3| civ4| smac| ctp2| ron| moo3| galciv| galciv2| alt| about|
ApolytonPLUS | register | search | faq | new posts | pm (-/-) | upload | members
hall of fame new! | civgroups | civgroups news | interviews | the column | radio | chat | directory | news | store | PLUS
Apolyton Civilization Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.0.3 Apolyton Civilization Forums > Miscellaneous > Off-Topic > Top Ten Most Significant Events of The Last 1000 Years
Show a Printable Version | Email This Page to Someone! | Receive updates to this thread | Report this to Apolyton news!
20.Sep: FOURTH CHAPTER IN `HISTORY OF...` PUBLISHED
13.Sep: NEWS ON THE FLY
06.Sep: APOLYTON DONATES TO HURRICANE RELIEF

bottom of page
   - CIVILIZATION 3 $9.99 - CIVILIZATION 2 from $6.95 - CIVILIZATION 2 from $4.25 - ALPHA CENTAURI + ALIEN CROSSFIRE (laptop collection) from $19.99 - ALPHA CENTAURI PC $9.99 -->
Author
Thread   
Pages (5): [ 1   2   3   4   5   ]
< Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
Urban Ranger is offline Urban Ranger
Apolyton Duke of Off-Topic

Donate to the Red Cross
The City State of Noosphere, CPA special envoy
May 1999
time: 13:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:01
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#61 Report this post to a moderator
Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Not really.


We can't leave the solar system before we make the first step.

Sir Og is offline Sir Og
Chieftain
Lurking in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria
Jun 2001
time: 07:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:13
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#62 Report this post to a moderator
Tired of ads?

Az's list

Also the printing press gets too much attention IMO. It sure is important but it could be argued that radio for example or TV ar just as important. This is just one example of a mass production advance.
Also all the Apolos should be replaced by something more appropriate eg. Sputnik, Gagarin.

notyoueither is offline notyoueither
Deity
of naught
Aug 2001
time: 22:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:15
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#63 Report this post to a moderator
Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Sputnik is part of the process that led to Apollo and the moon landing.

Call it the space race if you will.

Vince278 is offline Vince278
King

Dec 2002
time: 05:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:18
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#64 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

The space race was politics.

notyoueither is offline notyoueither
Deity
of naught
Aug 2001
time: 22:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:22
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#65 Report this post to a moderator
Inflate your Upload Space

Well, that beep, beep, beep, sure kicked the US space program in the butt and into shape. So call it what you will, but it is more than a day, or a landing. It was the culmination of a process that began with German rocketry, if not before.

Sir Og is offline Sir Og
Chieftain
Lurking in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria
Jun 2001
time: 07:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:25
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#66 Report this post to a moderator
Enter the AD-FREE zone

If you want to single out an event however it makes more sence to choose the first event not some so called pinnacle that would never have happened had it not been for the first event that triggered the race.

Vince278 is offline Vince278
King

Dec 2002
time: 05:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:25
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#67 Report this post to a moderator
Increase Your PM Length

Before. With Goddard.

notyoueither is offline notyoueither
Deity
of naught
Aug 2001
time: 22:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:33
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#68 Report this post to a moderator
Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote:
Originally posted by Sir Og
If you want to single out an event however it makes more sence to choose the first event not some so called pinnacle that would never have happened had it not been for the first event that triggered the race.


Then that first event would be a chemistry experiment in a cabbage patch in the US in 1926, or in clubs in Germany in the 1930's.

Sir Og is offline Sir Og
Chieftain
Lurking in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria
Jun 2001
time: 07:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:46
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#69 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

No. We should even go back to China!

Sir Og is offline Sir Og
Chieftain
Lurking in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria
Jun 2001
time: 07:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:55
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#70 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

NYE you have correctly pointed out that it would be more correct to wse the "space race" for the purposes of this list.

Space race IMO is:

-first man made object in space - Sputnik (SU)
-first man in space - Gagarin - Gagarin (SU)
-first man in open space - (SU)
-first man made object on another "planet" - (SU)
-first man on another "planet" - Apolo (USA)
-first space station - (SU)

Having this in mind it just seems not right to single out Apolo as the most important part of the space race.

notyoueither is offline notyoueither
Deity
of naught
Aug 2001
time: 22:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 12:56
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#71 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote:
Originally posted by Sir Og
No. We should even go back to China!


No, Sputnik had more to do with it than that. I'm just saying that Sputnik was not the beginning of it in the direct process that led to manned space flight, and it wasn't the culmination either.

It was important, and certainly was a point of pride for those who did it, but it doesn't define the age like Apollo 11 did.

Sir Og is offline Sir Og
Chieftain
Lurking in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria
Jun 2001
time: 07:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 13:06
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#72 Report this post to a moderator
Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

quote:
Originally posted by notyoueither


It was important, and certainly was a point of pride for those who did it, but it doesn't define the age like Apollo 11 did.


For me Gagarin defines the space age. And so it does for millions of other people around the world.

I can not expect the people in America to place Gagarin before Armstrong considering the uncomparable amount of coverage in your media that the two events got. And since Gagarin was before Armstrong I think he should make the list.

notyoueither is offline notyoueither
Deity
of naught
Aug 2001
time: 22:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 13:11
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#73 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote:
Originally posted by Sir Og
NYE you have correctly pointed out that it would be more correct to wse the "space race" for the purposes of this list.

Space race IMO is:

-first man made object in space - Sputnik (SU)


Actually, no. A V2 went 173 km up in 1946. And then the Russians tested some rockets prior to Sputnik. Sputnik was the first in orbit though. And it did beep.

notyoueither is offline notyoueither
Deity
of naught
Aug 2001
time: 22:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 13:12
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#74 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

quote:
Originally posted by Sir Og


For me Gagarin defines the space age. And so it does for millions of other people around the world.


I can understand that even if I don't agree.

BeBro is offline BeBro
King
of the Krauts
Mar 2000
time: 06:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 13:13 Visit BeBro's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#75 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

IMO the crusades (into the ME) as isolated events weren't that significant, after all the conquests in the ME were lost within less than 200 years, but I would put them into a bigger development which basically created Europe as an entity with a certain political, cultural and religious background (not geographically of course ): Expansion of Latin christianity, esp. during the 11-13th century with conquest, conversion and colonization, in a quasi alliance of the church, military aristocracy and others (or at least with common interests in many fields). The reconquista belongs to that process as well as other things, for example the creation of christian kingsdoms in northern or eastern Europe.

Similar the rise of Islam (yes, I know it does not fit exactly into the "last 1000 years" category since it started much earlier, but just for the record ).

Urban Ranger is offline Urban Ranger
Apolyton Duke of Off-Topic

Donate to the Red Cross
The City State of Noosphere, CPA special envoy
May 1999
time: 13:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 13:31
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#76 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

The Crusades led to the downfall of the aristocracy, paving the way for the rise of the Middle Class (capitalists).

BeBro is offline BeBro
King
of the Krauts
Mar 2000
time: 06:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 13:41 Visit BeBro's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#77 Report this post to a moderator
Put an end to popups!

Hm but the aristocracy was still the political elite (and sometimes also the military elite) in most big Euro countries over the 18th or even 19th century.

techumseh is offline techumseh
King
of the frozen North.
Apr 1999
time: 22:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 14:18 Visit techumseh's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#78 Report this post to a moderator
Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

1. Fire
2. Language
3. Domestication
4. Smelting
5. Sailing
6. Printing
7. Steam Engine
8. Socialism
9. Internet
10. Environmentalism

Only a combination of the last three will save human existence.

Kalius is offline Kalius
Emperor
Kriegsgewitter
Aug 2002
time: 16:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 14:26
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#79 Report this post to a moderator
Inflate your Upload Space

In no particular order

- American Revolution
- Russian Revolution
- German Unification
- Plague enters Sicily
- Constantinople falls to the Muslims
- Reformation
- Berlin Wall falls
- Pearl Harbour
- Waterloo
- French Revolution

Vince278 is offline Vince278
King

Dec 2002
time: 05:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 14:28
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#80 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote:
Originally posted by Sir Og
NYE you have correctly pointed out that it would be more correct to wse the "space race" for the purposes of this list.

Space race IMO is:

-first man made object in space - Sputnik (SU)
-first man in space - Gagarin - Gagarin (SU)
-first man in open space - (SU)
-first man made object on another "planet" - (SU)
-first man on another "planet" - Apolo (USA)
-first space station - (SU)

Having this in mind it just seems not right to single out Apolo as the most important part of the space race.


Sigh. Lets not forget Laika.

Sir Og is offline Sir Og
Chieftain
Lurking in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria
Jun 2001
time: 07:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 16:39
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#81 Report this post to a moderator
Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I was mainly focusing on man's acheivemnts in space.

Speaking of animals what was the name of the chimp that the US sent in space.

alva is offline alva
Emperor
Republic of Flanders
Sep 2001
time: 06:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 16:51
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#82 Report this post to a moderator
Full PM-box? Change here!

quote:
1) Man walks on the Moon
The pinnacle of human achievement, and undeniably what will be most significant to the next millenium.


Hmm, I think what will be remembered of tis episode in a thousand year is Gagarin and not the first man on the moon which is only an extension IMO(a great achievement nonetheless).

molly bloom is offline molly bloom
Prince
Lundenwic
Oct 2001
time: 15:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 17:02
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#83 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote:
Originally posted by DarkCloud
The Sci Method can fall under the Protestant Reformation since the thought processes could be said to have arisen from there... though Sir Francis Bacon was Catholic... ...




Urm, you mean the Scientific Method of observation and collection of data which had been known to Judaeo-Islamic science and Hispano-Moorish science ?


Oh, and to Italian, French and Spanish Catholic scientists too.

Bacon was an Anglican, by the way.

Kidicious is offline Kidicious
Settler
Diety of Kidiverse
Mar 2003
time: 21:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 17:12 Visit Kidicious's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#84 Report this post to a moderator
Got spare money?

It's interesting to see people's lists. It shows their perspective.

Kidicious is offline Kidicious
Settler
Diety of Kidiverse
Mar 2003
time: 21:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 17:38 Visit Kidicious's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#85 Report this post to a moderator
Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Come on guys. The major events of history were not nations trying to see who had the biggest collective penis. Apollo and Sputnik


(not in order)

-Nationalism
-Individualism
-The Renaissance
-Middle Class
-Progressivism
-Civil Rights Movement
-Anti-Colonialism
-Women's Movement
-Labor Movement
-Capitalism

Last edited by Kidicious on 03-06-2005 at 17:46

molly bloom is offline molly bloom
Prince
Lundenwic
Oct 2001
time: 15:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 17:54
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#86 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

The Fall of Byzantium- it gave a huge impetus to finding other ways of getting highly prized spices and luxury goods from Africa, India and China/Japan to the growing western nations of Portugal, Spain, France and England, and of course the Netherlands when they threw off the Spanish yoke.


It also meant the eventual eclipse of Venice, despite her privileged trading role with the Ottoman Empire, as now states would get their commodities and foodstuffs directly rather than rely on Italian middlemen.


The adoption of Hindu/Arabic numerals by the West is highly important too, so let's all give a cheer to Bhaskar, Fibonacci and his trading partners in Islamic North Africa:

'Liber Abaci' (Book of the Abacus) by Fibonacci (1170-1250):

"The nine Indian numerals are: 1,2, 3 (et cetera)...with these nine and with the sign 0 which in Arabic is sifr, any desired number can be written. "

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
Emperor
of Schmooism
Feb 2001
time: 00:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 19:02
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#87 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote:
Originally posted by Kidicious
Come on guys. The major events of history were not nations trying to see who had the biggest collective penis. Apollo and Sputnik


Idiots

The reason Apollo/Sputnik are important is because eventually a lot of people will be living off this rock, and these events are like Columbus' discovery of the Americas, to the colonization of space.

Az is offline Az
King
MACEDONIA - It's the name of the sovereign country to the north of Greece
Apr 2000
time: 07:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 19:06
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#88 Report this post to a moderator
Full PM-box? Change here!

Kuci

Kidicious is offline Kidicious
Settler
Diety of Kidiverse
Mar 2003
time: 21:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 19:07 Visit Kidicious's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#89 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton

quote:
Originally posted by Kuciwalker
eventually a lot of people will be living off this rock


Even if that becomes a reality, who cares? So we live on the moon someday. Why would the moon be better?

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
Emperor
of Schmooism
Feb 2001
time: 00:36
  Old Post 03-06-2005 19:12
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#90 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2



The point is, they WOULDN'T BE ON THE MOON - a significant part of their lives, to be sure - if we hadn't gone to the moon.

 
Pages (5): [ 1   2   3   4   5   ]
< Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:36.
Apolyton Time is 00:36.
    top of page
Rate This Thread:
Forum Jump:
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
 




Contact Us - Apolyton Civilization Site - Support Us!

Building a better Apolyton through better information. Click here and take our poll!
Non-US visitors, click here!

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.0.3
Copyright ©2000, 2001, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Page generated in 0.0615 seconds (91.58% PHP - 8.42% MySQL) with 30 queries
Page Loading Time:

Support Apolyton: Amazon USA | Amazon UK | Amazon DE | Amazon FR |
Support Apolyton and get FREE PLUS, Buy from Chips&Bits: Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition | Call to Power 2 | Civilization: The Boardgame | GURPS/ Alpha Centauri | Alpha Centauri | Civilization IV | Civilization III: Complete |


Front Page | Civilization IV | Civilization III | Civilization II | Call to Power II | Alpha Centauri | Master of Orion III
Rise of Nations | Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations II | Misc
Alt.Civs | Civ I | C:CtP I | About | News | Directory | Apolyton Store | Forums | Chat | Columns | Interviews | Newsletter
Scenario League | CSC | Clash of Civs | Spanish Site | CtP Maps | Cradle of Civ | WesW's Ctp1/2 Site | Civ3 Haven

apolyton.net | apolyton.com | civilization2.net | civilization3.net | civilization4.net | civilizationiv.info | calltopower.net | galciv.net | galciv2.net | moo3.net