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BigFree is offline BigFree

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Oct 1999
time: 21:19
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This screen was sent to me via PM by Emperor. It is our start.

Here was the message that went along with it:
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Hello,

This message has been sent to all team leaders (or next in charge, if the team leader is unavailable).

Elucidus and Micaelis Rex are both extremely busy at the moment, and as a result of this the ISDG game start may be delayed for several days. Elucidus has apologised for this, and has given me clearance to send through all the start position screenshots to each of the teams - so that they can at least have something to do over the next little while rather than twiddling their thumbs. (Please find your own team's screenshot attached to this post; I apologise for the maxi-size, but I figured I'd let you crop it yourself exactly how you wish. )

It is technically possible for me to start the game myself and send the save onward, but in a brief MSN conversation with Elucidus we agreed that some or all teams may object to anyone other than an admin starting the game, and therefore that would not be a wise decision. Thus, I'm afraid that the game start will have to be delayed until one of the admins has the time to begin the game themselves and send the save to the first team. (This could be any length of time, from less than a day away - if Micaelis Rex turns up - to three or four days [at the worst perspective].)

Anyway, here's your team's screenshot. I ask you to please have patience and faith in the admins - the last thing they need at this busy point in time is whinging and moaning about the late game start.

Sincerely,
Your ISDG Map Maker,
emperor


I guess all that is left is for the admins to "look" over the map and give it their approval. I wished that Emperor had gotten the approval from the admins prior to setting specific teams into their respective start postions and generally got the map pre-approved. But, oh well, here's what we got now.

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Excelent starting locaion.

Move teh worker to the cow or hill for a view (I would do cow first as I would want to work that square fist, even without the extra visibility we would get from the hill).

I say found teh city right there unless the worker move causes something to significantly change (such as a lux).

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  Old Post 06-07-2005 06:20
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

It looks pretty good to me as well.....well, as long as we are not surounded by jungle/desert!

Looking from the hill would waste two worker moves if we decide to settle there.

I can't imagine we'd want to start one tile to our N,NW, or W based upon what we see. We are on a river now, so I'd just say build there and move the worker to the cow.

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Worker 2/South.

I assume that's not a bonus we're on, but if it is, a move SW/1 for the settler would be in order. Otherwise, assuming no other things to take in to consideration from the worker move, found on the first turn.

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Posted by Elucidus at the UN 4.5 hours ago:

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passwords are in and everythign we need is here. Except for me. I am at work, I can't start the game until I get home tonight in about 5 or 6 hours from now. My goal is to get this started tonight. Barring any unforeseen problems it will happen.

The only thing you are waiting on now, is me. Sorry fot he confusion. MRex was misinformed since he was unaware of my situation and inability to start the game at that time.

Please forgive us. MRex is out of town and I am getting ready to be right out of town for 3-6 months, needless to say I am busy trying ot tie up loose ends before I leave which is why my responses are limited and short.

Again I apologize.

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Aug 2002
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  Old Post 06-07-2005 06:32
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Cow & Settle

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  Old Post 06-07-2005 06:35
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Got spare money?

Oh, and did I say "Wow, we got a COW!"?

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Before I look at anything, all I have to say is, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nice start

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  Old Post 06-07-2005 07:09
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4-Turn Settler Pump right where we are.

My suggested production order:
Warrior (explore for other Civs/goody huts)
Warrior (fort/explore nearby for city sites)
Worker/Warrior
Grainery

My suggested worker actions:
Irrigate Cow
Road Cow
Mine Bonus Grass
Road Bonus Grass
Chop Forest 9 of Apolyton (This might be done before the Mine/Road of the Bonus Grass deponding on our production builds. We are going to want the bonus shields to go to the Grainery).

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  Old Post 06-07-2005 07:18
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Other notes:
There appears to be either Plains or Flood Plains 3,3 of Apolyton.
This plain is two tiles. 3,3 of Apolyton and 3,2.
2,2 of Apolyton (South of the Cow) is a Flood Plain.
There is another hill 7,7 of Apolyton.
The Forest looks like it is atleast 2x2 tiles, all within Apolytons city radius.
Good start.

Additional information: We MUST remember that all other starts will be at least comparable. We MUST also remember to assume that all other starts are going to be better.

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  Old Post 06-07-2005 07:25
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yup, have to assume all have a cow. It will be up to those who can milk it the best

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Finally, it starts!!!

Yeah. settle there if not Bonus tile. As for scouting with the worker, I don't think we need to at this time,esp with not being Industrious.

I agree that the tiles that are SE are Plains (but not Flood Plains). Hopefully there will be another Cow on one of those tiles, too. If there is another Cow (oh please let the Great Banana provide IT), then I would suggest possibly Mining the grassland and Irrigating the Plains one, but that is all conjector and wishful thinking.

I'll start loading stuff into my sheets right now.

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Aren't we glad we chose Agricultural now?

Move settler 2, found capital on the spot.

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Aren't we glad we chose Agricultural now?

Move settler 2, found capital on the spot.


I'm SURE you meant "worker" and not settler to move 2.

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umm... err... that was in case... you know... if we started with 2 settlers...

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  Old Post 06-07-2005 09:23
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I agree. Move the worker south and settle on the spot if nothing turns up.

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Well, it's now about 1.5 hours pat when Elucidus said he would be home to get the game started. And, I do not know how the turn order goes. I'll be in the chat room and checking the forums for a bit longer to see what happens.

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Oh, and did I say "Wow, we got a COW!"?


We did last game. That one wasn't a grass cow though.

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  Old Post 06-07-2005 09:46
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I'd like to see what the view from the cow shows us before settling. It would really bite to lose a second bonus for the cap if there is something good 2 2 of where we are.

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I'd like to see what the view from the cow shows us before settling. It would really bite to lose a second bonus for the cap if there is something good 2 2 of where we are.


Agreed. Once we get the save, pause between moving the worker and doing whatever with the settler for further feedback.

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I'd like to see what the view from the cow shows us before settling. It would really bite to lose a second bonus for the cap if there is something good 2 2 of where we are.


Well, we could ALWAYS use it for city #2

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But yeah, lets move Worker to the Cows before we finally settle.

E_T

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To be done in order of listing

Set Research to IW.

Check F11 before settling (incase we are later in order, to see who is moving and who settled immediately).

Worker (needs a name) - move 2, next turn action dependant on this turn's findings.

Determine if start tile is regular or Bonus.

If Start tile is Bonus AND/OR we find other good things that might require us to move - Then Stop turnplay & post screenshot, post quick poll and wait until end of 24 hour limit to play turn, Await further MoI orders.

IF Start tile is reg AND nothing more of interest is revealed when worker moves, then have Settler built the Great city of 'Apolyton'. Set WF to 5 (cows). Set build to EW, with EW & Granary as Queue items. Set City Governor to Enhasize Production and set as default for new cities. Set Sci Rate to 100%. Check F8 & F11 screens before saving and post. Send on the save.


I think that should cover most of what we know to date.

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Sipahi is offline Sipahi
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Wow, very nice Startlocation. Worker South (2) and see. And MOST probably settle there where Settler is.

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If we build there=> do that first than move worker.

If we see after building the city a goody hut, than it would be usefull that the worker take it.

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With settling from start Location AND Irrigating/Roading Cows then Mining/Roading Bonus, this is what I come up with. Assuming turn 0 is 4000BC

turn 5 - Our first Enk War will be built at same time as we grow to size 2. We will either need to keep him there or use the lux slider to keep Pop Happy (likely slider).

turn 9 - size 3 and second Enk War built. Even with 10% Lux, we will need the garrison

turn 11 - setup a 3rd Enk War build, that way, 2nd warrior can explore local area. Starting on Granary

turn 14 - size 4, need that Enk Warrior back.

turn 20 - Granary built, just 1 turn before growing to size 5 so the Granary is full!.

turn 21 - size 5, need more lux

turn 24 - first settler built.

It looks like we grow too fast, but I'll look at options later. I've created a sim bic file that is attached to this post. I'm off to work now....

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Attachment: c3cisdg start.zip
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

ZargonX is offline ZargonX
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There's something wrong with that start... there doesn't seem to be enough jungle...

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Looks great. We are also not too far north to be stuck in tundra.

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Looks like a good start.

Workers names:
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