12-07-2005 01:19									#151
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	12-07-2005 01:22									#152
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It's sort of funny that we are referencing a thread on CFC that was referencing a thread on ACS.

	12-07-2005 02:16									#153
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150+ posts so far for the first turn, and we haven't even received it yet

	12-07-2005 02:24									#154
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower 150+ posts so far for the first turn, and we haven't even received it yet

Talk about overstatement.
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	12-07-2005 02:30									#155
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quote: Originally posted by sirleif It was alpha....and with testing via change the defelop you could choose which tech you found..it was always the tech you still was searching on :donk:.

Ok, please describe to us how to direct which tech you get (because if you can pick which tech you get, I just might be convinced that this would be worth the risk).

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	12-07-2005 02:47									#157
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quote: Talk about overstatement

Gathering Storm, 1270 AD, Turn 244, the turn that Lego fell.

We only had 76 posts before the turn arrived.

Then again, we did end up having 950 posts in the turn threads, and a further 250 posts about that turn, and the reprocussions.

I'm not joking. We really did post 1200 posts about that turn..

	12-07-2005 03:04									#158
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quote: Originally posted by Krill quote: Talk about overstatement Gathering Storm, 1270 AD, Turn 244, the turn that Lego fell. I'm not joking. We really did post 1200 posts about that turn..

Cool, but we have zero contacts, one Settler, one Worker, and it is 4000 BC. There is a limit you can talk about the move. This thread has been hijacked into a general development strategy thread. The moves for the turn are described on the first page, and you can do no better.

	12-07-2005 03:06									#159
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Just putting it into perspective, mate. I understand the limit, of course.

	12-07-2005 03:08									#160
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Hijacking? I want to know the feelings of the team before I play the turn. What we want for 15 and 25 turns from now has a large impact on the decisions that the ministers and Consuls make.

The more discussion the better. It is a sign of a vibrant, healthy team.

Let 'er rip, people.

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	12-07-2005 03:11									#162
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yeah, come on people, have a go with the sim. It's easy enough.

Oh, and plant the settler first, move worker after. The Germans and the possible goody hut swung it for me. Settling where we started is not really that bad a deal...

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	12-07-2005 03:14									#163
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Hijacking? I want to know the feelings of the team before I play the turn. What we want for 15 and 25 turns from now has a large impact on the decisions that the ministers and Consuls make. The more discussion the better. It is a sign of a vibrant, healthy team. Let 'er rip, people.

True, but not in one thread.

Would it not be better to create separate ones for mid- and long-term strategy, instead of putting everything in one place? I guarantee you much of this will be very hard to find in a month or so, hence getting repeated over and over...

	12-07-2005 03:16									#164
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If anything important is posted, it will be linked to, or quoted in another thread. At least, that is what has happened before.

	12-07-2005 03:18									#165
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quote: Originally posted by Krill Oh, and plant the settler first, move worker after. The Germans and the possible goody hut swung it for me...

I agree.

	12-07-2005 03:34									#166
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Looking at the map from the top post, found in place, send worker to cow and irrigate plus road, start researching Iron Working.

	12-07-2005 03:36									#167
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 True, but not in one thread. Would it not be better to create separate ones for mid- and long-term strategy, instead of putting everything in one place? I guarantee you much of this will be very hard to find in a month or so, hence getting repeated over and over...

True, but at the moment much of what we are discussing is speculative. Once we see more of the map, then longer term strategy can move to a thread of its own.

The bits I'm most keenly interested in deal with the short term and will affect our turn 1.

	12-07-2005 03:41									#168
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Future turn threads most likely will not turn to "free for all"'s. There is a free flowing discussion here mainly pertaining to what we do in our first turn; it just so happens that a lot of people are basing their opinions about what we do on what they want to do over the course of the next 1-100 turns.

If anyone wants to break off from this basic turn 1 discussion, feel free to create a thread for a specific topic and most people will try to keep it on track.

	12-07-2005 04:11									#169
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quote: Originally posted by Donegeal Ok, please describe to us how to direct which tech you get (because if you can pick which tech you get, I just might be convinced that this would be worth the risk).

well.

We opend a goody hut via placing a city close to it = no barbs possible. and we got a tech in it.

It was the tech on which we worked.

That's not all, i used that save to test what happend if i changed the tech we were searching on, bevore i open the goody hut..and the goody hut every time give the tech which was in defelopprogress.

It was in the beginning of the game and not all main tech where owned, i tnk that is the reason why that happend.


It was worse to find the tech which was still in progress to defelop :/..but well ...now i know that this is possibel.

sirleif

	12-07-2005 04:18									#170
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Is that we all aggreed with?

quote: Originally posted by sirleif first turn: first get the save and load it second buld city (only if we don't stand on a bonusgrassland tile) third move worker -> to goody hut if we see 1 and if not than to the cattle rigth?

	12-07-2005 04:20									#171
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quote: Originally posted by Krill yeah, come on people, have a go with the sim. It's easy enough. Oh, and plant the settler first, move worker after. The Germans and the possible goody hut swung it for me. Settling where we started is not really that bad a deal...

wait, what? We see no goody hut in the map, what's the benefit of planting a city before moving the worker to see more of the map? After moving the worker if we don't see any good reason to move, THEN we can start our first city.

	12-07-2005 04:24									#172
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower wait, what? We see no goody hut in the map, what's the benefit of planting a city before moving the worker to see more of the map? After moving the worker if we don't see any good reason to move, THEN we can start our first city.

crosspost:

like i said:

did we need to explore?
don't look like.
We place there the city THAN we move worker.
Maybe via city we see a goody hut ..who know's.
Than the worker should take this goody hut and move than to the cattle.
If there is no goody hut the worker move to the cattle.

hmm what did we do now first?
move worker to see more? and if yes-> where to go?
Or did we build there without scouting?
If yes than see above.

	12-07-2005 04:24									#173
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Planting the city will give us a much larger view of the surrounding area than will just moving the worker in one direction. If, and only if, we see a hut, will we move the worker towards it, otherwise, we will move to the cow. At least that's my opinion on how we should proceed.

If we move the worker first, then plant the city, then we may have moved the worker in the wrong direction.

The only reason to move the worker to the cow first is to see if we want to plant our first city either 1,2 or 3 (keypad wise) from our current position.

A good argument can be made for either way...

	12-07-2005 04:26									#174
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I take back 2 or 3; 1 is really the only possible other spot we'd settle. Not 2 or 3.

	12-07-2005 04:37									#175
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree Planting the city will give us a much larger view of the surrounding area than will just moving the worker in one direction. If, and only if, we see a hut, will we move the worker towards it, otherwise, we will move to the cow. At least that's my opinion on how we should proceed. ..

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And then the only way that would really help us is if we found another resource/lux 2 of the cow. We can't move our worker only one move and see any other tiles that would not already be under our influence except for the tile that is 2 of the cow. So, to move the worker first and for us to benefit from that first move, we would have to find a lux/resource just below that cow.

	12-07-2005 04:47									#177
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A picture is worth a 1000 words; or at least 5 or 6 in this case.

Attachment: first city.jpg
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	12-07-2005 04:51									#178
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If we are in fact sitting on bonus grassland I would then suggest we move the settler 1 (red X) and settle there regardless of what we find by moving the worker to the cow.

If it is not, it is still open for debate to either settle there or first check to see if there is anything worthwhile at the "Yellow ?"

It will be hard to convince me either way

	12-07-2005 05:15									#179
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I think we are going to have to wait to get the save before we can tell if that is bonus grassland or not under our settler.

I made two maps, one with bonus under him and one with out and from the screen shots, it's very difficult to tell.

Here's one:

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	12-07-2005 05:16									#180
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Here's the other:

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