30-07-2005 06:03									#61
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The Cardinal directions are generally the best idea.

What do you think, GK?

	30-07-2005 07:45									#62
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My Input:

If we move 4, then we will only see that one hill, after that move, then afterwards, once we get onto the hill, will see everything that we will see if moving 4-4-1.

And going 1 will also see just that hill, extra.

BUT, if for some reason, one of the other civs is close to us and headed our direction, moving more southernly first (1-4-4) might see him, if close enough. Excepting PAL, they would have 4 turns of movement more than we would.

Souther route will be more secure.

E_T

	30-07-2005 12:11									#63
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this shows what we know and don't know.

The tiles with the RED line are in FoW, but we can get good guesses from the edge. The Corner tiles, with the RED X's are not visible enough to even know what they are (except for the southern most, it's not a Mountain tile)

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MAJOR NOTE: everything that is OUTSIDE the red line is UNKNOWN. I have it as water, for ease of distinquishing what we DO and Don't know!!

We are NOT on an island
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	30-07-2005 18:39									#64
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You mean we have not one but two tiles with a food bonus, and a Luxury at home to top that? This is too easy.

As to directions, I say we keep this one going south. There is Jungle there, yes, but that can show us luxuries, maybe Mountains, and it probably means we have to travel a long way to meet someone to the south. Since we want early contacts, every turn counts. Keep a straight lane is what I would do.

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	30-07-2005 20:00									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 You mean we have not one but two tiles with a food bonus, and a Luxury at home to top that? This is too easy.

Apparently, everyone had a good start.
Let's say, "This is too easy... to be completely true"

quote: As to directions, I say we keep this one going south. There is Jungle there, yes, but that can show us luxuries, maybe Mountains, and it probably means we have to travel a long way to meet someone to the south. Since we want early contacts, every turn counts. Keep a straight lane is what I would do.

	30-07-2005 20:33									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Aro Apparently, everyone had a good start.

Which does not make them better builders. It does, however, mean we have a much better start than in the previous game (civ choice included). Remember, MM is this team's strength. I meant what I said.

	30-07-2005 21:55									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 Which does not make them better builders. It does, however, mean we have a much better start than in the previous game (civ choice included). Remember, MM is this team's strength. I meant what I said.

You're right.
In fact, this may be the better start we ever had.
And don't be softened by that, folks... I know we're used to jungle and deserts and hard life, and those green prairies are too tempting…

	31-07-2005 00:58									#68
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I wanted the fist explored to just stay in the neigherbood and locate our first couple of city sites. Nobody else (except perhaps E_T) liked that idea, so our first two scouts will go to find our neighbors. Fine. But, lets do it smart, and exlore as much land as possible. Stick to the high ground. The one bit of high ground that is still mostly in the direction we want to go is the hill to the SW that is just at the edge of the fog. Lets go there. We do know that we want to go in a southern direction for the most part, but nobody knows where, with any certanty, the other civs are.

So, scout 1 will go south, but sticking to the high ground.

Enk#2 will stay at home as MP.

Enk#3 will scout, and will go in an eastern direction, However, he will go a bit to the north to the mountain to scout out that area on his way going east. Again, he will stick to the high ground on his explorations, and if that means going 3 or 4 tiles north or south, so be it.

	31-07-2005 01:18									#69
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Does it have to be both, GK? Or can one go South for contact and the other scout city sites?

	31-07-2005 22:57									#70
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No. We can have one hang out in the area scouting locally. It is just that many people were asking to go real fast to meat our neighbors, thus that was the goal.

I know that the MOI debate is to build enk#4 before or after the granary. He was going to focus on teh local area.

	31-07-2005 23:03									#71
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#4 is currently after the Granary, in Apolyton, before first settler. But it will be staying at home, for happiness purposes, IIRC (I don't have my sheets up right now).

E_T

	06-08-2005 11:05									#72
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Well. We are at a point that sucks. E1 has a hill at 7 that will show a lot of land. However, moving that 7 delays us a turn from heading South.

For myself, I would rather move that 7 and help the settlement plans. South is still there the next turn.

	06-08-2005 12:31									#73
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or move 2 and work our way through the jungle?

	06-08-2005 17:07									#74
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I was under the impression that GK wanted him to circle back up north? Go 7 (hill), 8 (plains just left of the mountian), 8 (what looks to be more hills).

Since we moved EW2 out to explore (it would be silly not to send him up north to explore our river basin), has GK oked EW1 to head sourth? If he has, I still don't see a problem with going 7 with EW1 before he heads out on his primary mission.

	06-08-2005 17:46									#75
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Moving the warrior inside our borders seven would be my vote. As nye said, South [and indeed North ] is still there next turn. To move 2 seems non-optimal to me, we will south more of the south if we move 7 as we'll get the tile 22 of the hill.

	06-08-2005 17:47									#76
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with regard to city sire scouting, we have several excellent sites already. I am not sure more scouting is needed for a while.. especailly if we move 7 ;-)

	06-08-2005 20:10									#77
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Our best bet to find another civ is to go south still. #1 will go 1 next, then from there will go due south unless there is something else we see that we want to go and see better.

	06-08-2005 20:23									#78
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Yes, moving 1 next turn and then south (moving 2) seems optimal to me. We need to make contact with others, the sooner the better.

	07-08-2005 08:43									#79
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1?! What's there to see?

	07-08-2005 09:24									#80
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I think that is GK way of sending him south? Would one turn make all that much difference if he was moved 7 then 2? Much more land will be uncovered, including some all important plains that still have a chance of having Ivory on them...

	08-08-2005 16:52									#81
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Please stop zigzagging with our scout! He's not drunk, is he?

	08-08-2005 17:24									#82
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South means you hit 2 on the numpad until it hurts. And then, hit it some more. Got it?

	08-08-2005 21:57									#83
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Well, after this turn, I think the newly created EW should move 6 to the hill, then head south.

	08-08-2005 22:31									#84
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I think this one is to stay home for happiness purposes.

	08-08-2005 22:32									#85
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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster Please stop zigzagging with our scout! He's not drunk, is he?

Get drunk in the duty is strictly forbidden... Isn’t?

	09-08-2005 00:11									#86
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree I think this one is to stay home for happiness purposes.

I was talking about EW #2, not EW #3.

	09-08-2005 01:00									#87
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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster Please stop zigzagging with our scout! He's not drunk, is he?

Oooo! Maybe theres actually wines on that hill and he just keeping them all to himself!

	09-08-2005 01:23									#88
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I'm concerned that we've left Apolyton undefended. A warrior could be south of us and move within 1 tile of the city without any warning. Of course we could rush an EW but I'd rather not.

	09-08-2005 01:58									#89
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EW3 is fortified in the city. Thats a 2.5 defense against a possible 1 attack. The good news is that if someone were to come up and trigger our GA now, atleast the bonus would go toward building our Granery faster, thus increasing our REX...

	09-08-2005 04:24									#90
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My bad. I looked at the screen shot in this thread not the current turn. EW in 4 had me scared. Since it will be done next turn no worries.