09-08-2005 19:27									#91
	3350BC Conjecture Map and possible exploration moves Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Please Note:This map is supposition, based on FoW tile edges. This does NOT show that we are on an isolated island

Now, the colored lines:

Red Line - Tiles that are FoW edge tiles. The tyle type is conjecture, but some (like hills and mountains) are what we will find there. We have no idea as to what is on those tiles (bonus stuff, rivers, huts). The tiles that are outside this red line is Totally Unknown, includig the tiles with the RED X's

Yellow Circles with movement lines - Current Location of our 2 explorers (EW1 in west, EW2 in east). The YELLOW lines with arrows shows the best route, based on terrain and tiles uncovered from FoW.

Please note, that the line for EW2 is 18 tiles (moves/turns) long. So, EW2 will be around that point, at end of movement line, in 18 turns. Also note, that at that same time, Apolyton will have just started on it's 3rd settler built (after building Granary, EW#4, 2 Settlers & EW #5).

So, we won't have that much area uncovered, especially our southern area, before we are really cranking out Settlers (4 turn EW/Settler cycle).

It would be nice (although I know it;s not going to happen, atleast with the Active posters) that we send EW1 along the Brown Movement line (and at end in 18 turns). We should have Ivory out there somewhere, but won't know where it's at, until, very likely, at this point in time, until the settlers are headed out.

E_T

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	09-08-2005 20:14									#92
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shouldn't we have 5 EW in 18 turns? if yes, what will the other three do?

	09-08-2005 20:23									#93
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Better send Enk #2 back into the city after a small loop, and send #3 or #4 out west. I don't care if the Tundra is Grey, Greyer or Greyest, really.

	10-08-2005 07:56									#94
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quote: Originally posted by E_T Please Note:This map is supposition, based on FoW tile edges. This does NOT show that we are on an isolated island Now, the colored lines: Red Line - Tiles that are FoW edge tiles. The tyle type is conjecture, but some (like hills and mountains) are what we will find there. We have no idea as to what is on those tiles (bonus stuff, rivers, huts). The tiles that are outside this red line is Totally Unknown, includig the tiles with the RED X's Yellow Circles with movement lines - Current Location of our 2 explorers (EW1 in west, EW2 in east). The YELLOW lines with arrows shows the best route, based on terrain and tiles uncovered from FoW. Please note, that the line for EW2 is 18 tiles (moves/turns) long. So, EW2 will be around that point, at end of movement line, in 18 turns. Also note, that at that same time, Apolyton will have just started on it's 3rd settler built (after building Granary, EW#4, 2 Settlers & EW #5). So, we won't have that much area uncovered, especially our southern area, before we are really cranking out Settlers (4 turn EW/Settler cycle). It would be nice (although I know it;s not going to happen, atleast with the Active posters) that we send EW1 along the Brown Movement line (and at end in 18 turns). We should have Ivory out there somewhere, but won't know where it's at, until, very likely, at this point in time, until the settlers are headed out. E_T

Very nice, ET. Thank-you for the taking the time.

I moved E2 8 this turn (sses more) moving him 6 next turn has the same effect as 1-1.

	10-08-2005 07:57									#95
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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster Better send Enk #2 back into the city after a small loop, and send #3 or #4 out west. I don't care if the Tundra is Grey, Greyer or Greyest, really.

I care if there is game or furs up there near the wheat. I also care where the coast is (and perhaps fish).

	10-08-2005 11:27									#96
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither I care if there is game or furs up there near the wheat. I also care where the coast is (and perhaps fish).

With the map being "man made" there's no telling what's around us! Take caution in making presumptions based upon what we know the map generator to do.

	10-08-2005 22:36									#97
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Enk 1 new mission - find their homelands!

	12-08-2005 08:54									#98
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Agreed, GK. I was about to post the same thing here, when I saw yours..

	12-08-2005 09:42									#99
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I suspect SW from EW1

E_T

	13-08-2005 07:31									#100
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With an extra Enk now, and rejuggling of tile assignments to get the 2nd settler and IW on the same turn...

We may have enough spare gold to send EW2 further East and then South, and have EW3 or 4 go up river to see what may be near that wheat.

Do we want to know the shape of the tundra, or the land to the E and SE as a higher priority?

	13-08-2005 15:45									#101
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as proposed by one of your PMs I'd like to send one enkidu to the mountain and mvoe him north after this to reveal more and pop huts if there are any.

	15-08-2005 10:03									#102
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Does Ew1 go S (2-2-2) or W (4-7-?)?

	15-08-2005 10:11									#103
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They are coming from W of EW1, or they would have jumped on his current position and come straight up through the jungle.

I think 4 for the next move and then consider. There's another hill-mountain SW of us.

	15-08-2005 10:20									#104
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Perhaps 2 then 4. That way we still "guard" their warrior, but at the same time, get in position for exploring in the direction we want to.

	15-08-2005 10:46									#105
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Go 2-2-2, to that mountain to the south. If we don't see anything there, then we can go west from there

E_T

	15-08-2005 11:04									#106
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I would say their capital is somewhere in the area marked by tundra. That's 11 tiles from contact.

	15-08-2005 15:35									#107
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why do you exclude the south or southeast?

and they see our border, so they definitley know where to find our capital...

	15-08-2005 18:08									#108
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Their movement pattern is indicitive of someone exploring in an eastward direction.

	15-08-2005 18:45									#109
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hmm ok now you say it i see it, too...

so my suggestion would be to go 4-4-1 onto the hill. that way we will find their capital asap...

	15-08-2005 19:00									#110
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Yeah. Akryll has good directions. More so now than last turn, we have to finf the CBR capital. Somewhere near their capital is a nice juicy settler.

	15-08-2005 19:16									#111
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2-2 gets my vote.

	15-08-2005 20:37									#112
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2-2-2 seems good to me.
Anyway, we'll chat with CBR tonigh, at 19:00 (poly time). Maybe we get some new info. The channel and details are (or will be) in the funny thing thread.

	15-08-2005 21:23									#113
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can the 2-2-2 supporters plz give some good arguments

the argument for 4-4-1 is to find the brazilian captial ASAP!

and a hill is nearly as good as mountain...
the tile number we would explore is the same (21) tough of course the view from the hill might be blocked by forest, mountains, hills and jungle whereas the view from the mountain is only blocked by other mountains.

nevertheless the priority shoul be to find the capital!!!

	15-08-2005 21:47									#114
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quote: Originally posted by Donegeal Their movement pattern is indicitive of someone exploring in an eastward direction.

quote: Originally posted by Poly-Akryll can the 2-2-2 supporters plz give some good arguments the argument for 4-4-1 is to find the brazilian captial ASAP! ......

I've just noticed! You're right. If he's coming from an eastward direction, their capital has to be somewhere on south-west.

	15-08-2005 23:40									#115
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This is a man made map with each Civ placed by a person. We also have no idea if CBR made a route adjustment because they found a hut or not. I still say go due South and then reexamine where we are and what we see and then make another choice of whether to go South or East from there.

	16-08-2005 00:03									#116
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We're in the 17th turn, they just hadn't enough time to big route readjustment... I can't decide what route we should take, but I'm pretty sure they are somewhere sw from us.

	16-08-2005 03:07									#117
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We could send both EW 1 and 4 (?) to look for their capitol, with 1 doing 2-2-2 and then W/SW and with 4 doing 7-7 or 4-4 and follow that river for a couple of turns (likely position for a start)...

	16-08-2005 03:55									#118
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Looking at how they are moving that warrior of theirs, I would say that they are probably due west of us, perhaps a bit south.

Because of this, I suggest we keep moving our scout south in hopes of finding a goodie hut and making a new contact. Scout #2 should keep going east north east, and has a mission of finding the ocean or lake that is that way.

Our other two will stay near home to protect it. The safe move.

	16-08-2005 08:37									#119
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2-2-2 works... if we go 4-4-4 (or thereabouts) after that. We can get through the possible places of their home lands pretty quickly.

We also have to keep in mind that there may be another civ to the S. There is a lot S of us.

This is looking like a huge land mass.

	16-08-2005 08:39									#120
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree This is a man made map with each Civ placed by a person. We also have no idea if CBR made a route adjustment because they found a hut or not. I still say go due South and then reexamine where we are and what we see and then make another choice of whether to go South or East from there.

Was it completely man made, or simply adjusted?