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Kalius is offline Kalius
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Here are your Fab 4.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/...ects/html/1.stm

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The jamaican guy was a convert.

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Does anyone else doubt that these guys have any connections to terrorists? Given how underwhelming their performances have been, it seems more like they're idiots who were inspired by the earlier bombings.

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Does anyone else doubt that these guys have any connections to terrorists? Given how underwhelming their performances have been, it seems more like they're idiots who were inspired by the earlier bombings.


Nope, don't thik they are copycats. My guess is that their bombmaker either screwed up seriously or didn't want to participate in further killings and willfully disabled the bombs.

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The rumors are that the explosive used hadn't dried properly and thus didn't explode. So more a case of not following the recipe properly.

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Recently I watched a news feature concerning Malmö (Sweden's third largest city; it has a lot of immigrants and a lot of immigrant-related criminal problems too)...

Person after person (all non-whites) testified about getting special treatment from the swedish police... Pulled over for no reason, talked harshly to and some physical abuses too... I believe these people, what on earth could they possibly gain by going on national TV and to court (this is not the US, so there's no money in sueing)?

Another frequent "inquiry" that journalists (and law students!) do every once in a while is letting non-white reporters/students try to enter night clubs... It's always "full", but 5 minutes later a couple of white guys enter without a problem... Do I have to spell out that the reporters/students look impeccable and are sober when trying?

When confronted the people refusing to let them in always say that the white guys are VIP or special members of the establishment or that you need a club card to get in (which is bs, since the right to sell alcohol is strictly regulated in Sweden and you can't sell in an establishment that only has private members)...

Does that make every police officer or establishment owner a racist? Of course not... Not any more than the minority of immigrants involved in criminal activities makes every immigrant a criminal...

As I said, there are lots of gang-related problems appearing in Malmö now (not anything near the scale in the US, though)... For example, they harrass visitors and staff in cinemas to the extent that there's been fighting in the theater and films have had to be cancelled... Those few rotten apples don't make the whole barrel bad, though...

But you have to be extremely naïve, Asher, if you for a sec believe that people enjoy the same treatment no matter what the colour of their skin is... Racism is everywhere, in every society...

Carolus

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You ask good questions Carlus, but what about the lack of interest in marrying locals ?

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You ask good questions Carlus, but what about the lack of interest in marrying locals ?



Sorry, I don't understand... What do you mean?

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Sorry, I don't understand... What do you mean?

Carolus


Main parts of immigrants in denmark claims that they will prefer that their children marries someone from their origin.

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Like I said, racism (and fear of the non-mainstream, whether it's cultural, sexual, religious or otherwise) exists in every society and every culture...

Racism is not only whites discriminating blacks or asians or whoever... It goes in "all directions" and is equally bad no matter who the perpetrator is...

Carolus

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Like I said, racism (and fear of the non-mainstream, whether it's cultural, sexual, religious or otherwise) exists in every society and every culture...

Racism is not only whites discriminating blacks or asians or whoever... It goes in "all directions" and is equally bad no matter who the perpetrator is...

Carolus


I gues that I'm on several ignore list's and by your crazy claims that racism isn't just a whitie problem, I guess that you probably must join me

Ewwew, it really is difficult to to maintain hate towards sweden when your ancestors is secondary swedes :;

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The rumors are that the explosive used hadn't dried properly and thus didn't explode. So more a case of not following the recipe properly.


Which is part of why I think they're a bunch of incompetent idiots rather than actual terrorists.

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I gues that I'm on several ignore list's and by your crazy claims that racism isn't just a whitie problem, I guess that you probably must join me



Well... I thought that was uncontroversial... I don't follow the OT very regularly... Is there some interesting thread on the subject you can point me to?

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Ewwew, it really is difficult to to maintain hate towards sweden when your ancestors is secondary swedes :;



Why do you i) hate Sweden and ii) want to maintain that hate?

I like Denmark! For one thing, during the 1980s you were the sunshine in the Euro (1984) and World Cup (1986) in soccer for many Swedes (we didn't qualify for a single big tournament that decade... )... Dansk dynamit!

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Well... I thought that was uncontroversial... I don't follow the OT very regularly... Is there some interesting thread on the subject you can point me to?


Nah, i don't think it's controvercial - more likely ignored.

Last most interestigly is

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...80&pagenumber=6


quote:

Why do you i) hate Sweden and ii) want to maintain that hate?

I like Denmark! For one thing, during the 1980s you were the sunshine in the Euro (1984) and World Cup (1986) in soccer for many Swedes (we didn't qualify for a single big tournament that decade... )... Dansk dynamit!

Carolus


first of all, I don't hate swedes - though swedes lack of understanding of danish can piss me off (professionally, I newer had a problem exceptv numbers - why can't you use plain dosees instead of this metric nonsense

Dammit - I use more time on spell checking - enough for this night.

BC

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Is there some interesting thread [...]


There's also this one, which might be of interest to you, since you mentioned Malmö earlier. It has a link to a somewhat enlightening Weekly Standard article on the state of things in Malmö. Bumped it for you.

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Sorry CR - I think I was quite drunk last night - actually I don't have that many grudges against swedes - being of swedish descendance and having family "over there" it would be stupid

Though, I wish you would get sane naming numbers

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BlackCat, the Danish paiktis...

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BlackCat, the Danish paiktis...


I'm pretty sure that both paiktis and I disagrees equally strong with this statement

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Hopefully.

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BlackCat, the danish Fez would be more to the point

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Since that comes from the swedish Epublius Rex, I'm not worried

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Which is part of why I think they're a bunch of incompetent idiots rather than actual terrorists.


What makes you think these two things are mutually exclusive. I don't think terrorists are evil geniuses.

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Oh, the Swedes and Danes- it's been downhill since the Kalmar Union.

Settle your differences over some rye bread and fermented herring.

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Oh, the Swedes and Danes- it's been downhill since the Kalmar Union.

Settle your differences over some rye bread and fermented herring.





Only if there are some Snaps too

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Well, if there is snaps then the Swedes will need governmental approval before attending.

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You can settle your differences over some reruns of 'When the Boat Comes In'.

Archaic 1970s reference.


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molly, speaking of the 70's, get your butt over in the Les Humphries Singers thread. Post something we had no way of knowing.

That thread has 26 posts by only 3 posters. Enough to make me chuck another one.

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molly, speaking of the 70's, get your butt over in the Les Humphries Singers thread. Post something we had no way of knowing.

That thread has 28 posts by only 3 posters. Enough to make me open another beer.


Dammit, you are supposed to post pics of Ann-frid in that thread - not wasting time here - though if you succed in getting Molly to post there, you are forgiven

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Ouch, I got auto-DanS'ed.

All right, onto the Frida-posting...

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Hey asher

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4711021.stm

 
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