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And I thought the war in Iraq was supposed to be over!?!

So, have we worked out an exit strategy yet - or are we still pretending that everything is going according to plan?

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Well US soldiers will always be sacrificial lambs for the greater good of America.

If you choose to be a soldier in the US army then you deserve whatever fate awaits you.

Go here http://www.militaryvideos.net/ and download the Marines in Fallujah videos. You will need a bit torrent program. Don't worry they download extremely fast.

Appears to me after watching those videos the marines are having a blast in Iraq. I think Bush would spoil the party if he pulled out now.

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We've had plenty worse weeks.

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Where's the orgasm smiley for Moby?

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seems most of the deaths are in Haditha, in the far part of Anbar, near the syrian border. Problem is, with too few troops to seal the border, the USMC is trying to cut the ratlines from Syria by search and detain missions in the towns along the Euphrates, some of which are the most hostile in Iraq.

all in all the rate of bombings against civilians, after the post election lull, went up dramatically in April. Whether its stayed up, or gone down slightly since, depends on which stats you focus on. But overall, Id say, we're not making any direct progress on reducing the level of violence, and we ought to be honest about that. OTOH the violence doesnt seem to have stopped the process of recruiting and training Iraqi forces.


BTW, am i the only old enough (and just barely, at that) to recall what a milestone it was, when US combat deaths finally went BELOW one hundred a week?

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BTW, am i the only old enough (and just barely, at that) to recall what a milestone it was, when US combat deaths finally went BELOW one hundred a week?


72?

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72?


i think it was even earlier than that, 1971, I think. Im thinking of the first week it went below a hundred, not when it went consistently below a hundred.

ah, ive found something: November, 1970

"1970 Vietnam: US combat deaths down
US Military Assistance Command Vietnam reports the lowest weekly death toll in five years. Twenty-four Americans died in combat during the last week of October, the fifth consecutive week that the US death toll was under 50. Although the numbers of American dead were down, 431 were wounded during the reported period, mostly from mines, booby traps, and mortar and sniper fire. The reduced number of US casualties reflected the gradual transfer of the responsibility for the war to the South Vietnamese under President Nixon's Vietnamization program. While US troops were still conducting combat operations, more and more of them were being withdrawn from Vietnam and the nature of their operations became more defensive"

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I was 7 so it was registering but at a more of a whats "Mom and Dads reaction."

5 in 70.

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draft works wonder for a democracy. it makes its people feel the burden of the war and makes them think about finding a solution.

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How have you been where are you?

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yeah, have criticism and get immediately accused of having an orgasm when people die... sounds like right wing tactics to me alright.

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Well, you have to take into consideration that conservatives have this disorder where their hyper-patriotism interferes with their argumentation skills.

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Told you so

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yeah, have criticism and get immediately accused of having an orgasm when people die... sounds like right wing tactics to me alright.


Hey its what works.

In the same vein as the stock reply from MrFun's "Why did you hate freedom?" routine.

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this disorder where their hyper-patriotism interferes with their ARGUMENTATION skills.



That's a Bushism if ever I heard/read one.


Or should that be herd/red one ?

ARGUMENTATION - pah.

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yeah, but that's a typical unfun joke of mr fun.

your line is insulting ! but strangely it seems to be accepted.

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yeah, have criticism and get immediately accused of having an orgasm when people die...


Knowing Mobius, this treatment is overkind.

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That's a Bushism if ever I heard/read one.


Or should that be herd/red one ?

ARGUMENTATION - pah.


ar·gu·men·ta·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ärgy-mn-tshn)
n.
The presentation and elaboration of an argument or arguments.
Deductive reasoning in debate.
A debate.

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yeah, but that's a typical unfun joke of mr fun.

your line is insulting ! but strangely it seems to be accepted.


It's accepted because its part and parcel for everyone of Moby's the US is getting slaughtered threads. (as presumably that is all he can post about)

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That's a Bushism if ever I heard/read one.


Or should that be herd/red one ?

ARGUMENTATION - pah.


Scary I was going to say the same thing, until I wikipedia'd Argumentation resulting in Argumentation theory.

Still from a grammar perspective Argumentation is a noun and so is skills. The more appropriate would be argumentative skills, or the like, with argumentative being the adjective modifying the noun, skills.

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It's accepted because its part and parcel for everyone of Moby's the US is getting slaughtered threads. (as presumably that is all he can post about)


i admit i haven't read them all so i cannot say anything about their content. but why are you so sensitive about someone saying that 39 US soldiers died, and then blaming your governement for it ?

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I'm not. I am merely sick and tired of the same old same old hackery of Moby. It gets extremely tiresome every new thread he creates.

And before you say ignore, I instead choose to call him out on his single track mind and lack of originality.

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These threads bore me. Maybe if they weren't posted by someone who I felt probably needed to clean himself after hearing about the deaths before rushing to post here in obvious glee, I'd be more inclined to pay attention.

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Then again there is the DD route.

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hm... DD,

last time we had a battleship firing picture thread, did you wet yourself ?

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Then again there is the DD route.
I was curious if MOBIUS posted anything worthwhile (I realize that it was a slim possibility but I prefer to live in hope.) since it had replies but I was disappointed.

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the attacks appear to become more focused

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the attacks appear to become more focused


The attacks on me, or the US soldiers?

The point is that the right-wing sheep that frequent this site in their droves have no argument whatsoever apart from their personal and slanderous attacks (at least I wasn't called 'clueless' though - that might have been the last straw!)...

For a start they appear mentally ill-equiped to realise that due to their thirst for war in Iraq, the blood is on their hands - if anyone in this thread should be accused of orgasming over the deaths of US soldiers it should be the likes of cowardly armchair generals like DanS, Dinodoc etc who have posted their hateful attacks whilst sitting in their ivory towers safe from the harm that the US soldiers have to risk everyday...

If it was down to me, no US soldiers would have died in Iraq because we wouldn't have invaded in the first place!

Instead we could have ploughed those hundreds of billions of $'s and hundreds of thousands of manpower into tracking down Al Qaeda to the ends of the Earth (nope they weren't in Iraq until the Coalition of the Killing invaded! )...

Perhaps Bin Laden might've been captured now - perhaps Afghanistan wouldn't still be the chaotic mess it still is because a certain numb-nuts president and his poodle lackey decided to jump into a totally irrelevant sideshow in the 'War on Terror'?

Maybe if the UK govt had spent all the billions it's spent in Iraq on its intelligence services, maybe just maybe the London bombers would have been intercepted before they struck? Maybe those bombers wouldn't have become radicalised in the first place if we hadn't invaded Iraq - cos they only became radicalised after the invasion of Iraq!!?

What about the events in Sudan, Iran, North Korea, Niger? By so effectively tying themselves down in a manpower quagmire the UK and US are little able to deal with the real potential threats and humanitarian crises around the World, and consequently people are dying from famine and genocide - and the world becomes a more dagerous place...

Nope, instead of actually tackling the issue at hand (Al Qaeda) the rightwing chickenhawks of which there are plenty on this forum, engaged in a massively overconfident ****ing contest.

I don't need to say I told you so, because I already did all that before the invasion - seems to me that since you guys are accusing me of having orgasms about this subject that you all are suffering from premature ejaculations for being so badly wrong from the start of this whole mess right the way up still taking unacceptable casualties so long after major hostilities were 'ended'. The were no WMD's, there was no Al Qaeda link - there is no exit strategy except to keep on getting soldiers killed and pouring billions into a vast festering black hole...

So keep with the personal insults - it means I know you guys have no credible answer, that you were and are wrong about invading Iraq and its aftermath...

 
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