12-08-2005 10:15									#31
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Wow, idiot and moron actually have proper definitions?. Like wow.

	12-08-2005 10:22									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Flip McWho Wow, idiot and moron actually have proper definitions?. Like wow.

quote: Moron was coined by psychologist Herbert Goddard in 1910, and used to describe a person with a genetically determined mental age between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale.

	12-08-2005 10:35									#33
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Asher is wrong, idiot is very loose term. Only on apolyton

	12-08-2005 11:58									#34
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Meanwhile, the Kansas Board of Education — and I'm using that term lightly — has endorsed the use of Intelligent Design in the science classrooms by a 6-4 vote earlier this week.

Local districts, of course, will have the final say in what they do, but having support from "on high" can only embolden those who seek to further undermine science in that state and, more worrisome, across the nation.

As for my views, well, let's just say that I think there's a lot more going on than we can ever hope to know ... but that doesn't mean we *shouldn't* try to know. As such, I cannot in good conscious limit myself to the tunnel vision of a creation view by a single church.

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quote: But at least 55% of Americans are smart enough to know the truth

Unfortunately not even that, I recall reading in the Nation Geographic some time ago that 45% of Americans believe in literal creationism (that is, Earth created according to Genesis in the last 10'000 years), around 40% believe that God started it all but that evolution may have had some influence, and only something like 10-15% concurred with the vast majority of science.

quote: the Kansas Board of Education — and I'm using that term lightly — has endorsed the use of Intelligent Design in the science classrooms by a 6-4 vote earlier this week.

	12-08-2005 12:17									#36
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I'd like to see the wording of the poll before I condemn my fellow 'murikins.

	12-08-2005 12:45									#37
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Look. The thread was stated by someone who starts threads like the number of K.I.A. American soldiers.
Why American? Why not Brit?
And so you have some high expectation?

And hey, before you say anything, thats's relevant.

	12-08-2005 13:17									#38
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45% of people who don't accept the overwehlming opinion of the scientific comminuty is worrying especialy when that non acceptance is based on a one book written thousands of years ago. However they are not morons, infact that is the worrying thing.

	12-08-2005 15:12									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer "45% of Americans are Morons " I'd like to proudly state that I'm in the other 65%.

Oh the irony

	12-08-2005 15:12									#40
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Why am I not surprised, and I doubt many people would be either. Time to enter the 20th century methinks

	12-08-2005 15:22									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Meanwhile, the Kansas Board of Education — and I'm using that term lightly — has endorsed the use of Intelligent Design in the science classrooms by a 6-4 vote earlier this week.

What's wrong with using a little intelligent design when building science classrooms? That way every student would have access to a bunsen burner, a sink and will have an unobstructed view of the projection scree.

	12-08-2005 15:23									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Why am I not surprised, and I doubt many people would be either. Time to enter the 20th century methinks

I think 100 years is more than enough for the 20th century.

	12-08-2005 15:38									#43
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We'll let you skip through it in 10 years if we consider you to be making good progress and don't fall into any of those traditional pitfalls, eg, world wars, great depressions, etc

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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Oh the irony

100-0

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I don't think so

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Note the wink.

	12-08-2005 16:21									#47
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PH got mrfunned

	12-08-2005 16:23									#48
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Nah, to do that he would have had to explain the base-10 number system or something along those lines.

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MOBIUS,

I have some Abu Gharib photos I will let you wack off to if you promise to stop posting troll threads...

Come on, you know you want to...

	12-08-2005 17:14									#51
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Actually "idiot" and "moron" originally had specific meanings, but the APA withdrew their use from official terminology because they had become popular perjoratives. "Idiot" was used to describe someone with lower intelligence than "moron". Even "imbecile" was at one time officially accepted to describe someone who was retarded, but not as severely as a "moron". Today the proper terms are "severely mentally retarded" and "moderately mentally retarded" instead of "idiot" and "moron" respectively.

	12-08-2005 18:28									#52
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this would of course account for the fact that kids in the US dont play with games and toys about dinosaurs - it would explain the mass demonstrations against Steven Spielberg when Jurassic Park came out. It would explain the fact that in most states there isnt even any thought to teaching "Intelligent design" as science.

Cmon. This number doesnt pass the sniff test. 10,000 years? Most folks are innumerate, and probably dont think of that as incompatible with evolution. They dont automatically think that the bronze age began in 4000 BCE.

	12-08-2005 18:44									#53
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quote: Originally posted by tinyp3nis Asher is wrong, idiot is very loose term. Only on apolyton

It's normally a very loose term, except when someone uses it specifically like:

quote: It's a fact that 50% of any large enough population are idiots. So?

Which is alluding to its definition of someone of "sub-normal" intelligence.

	12-08-2005 18:56									#54
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quote: 45% of Americans are Morons

And the other 65% are what?

quote: Which is alluding to its definition of someone of "sub-normal" intelligence.

In Lake Wobegone ALL the children are above average

	12-08-2005 18:58									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Japher And the other 65% are what?

Well, we know which side of the line Japher's on.

	12-08-2005 19:00									#56
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quote: Well, we know which side of the line Japher's on.

If you've just figured that out then... it takes one to know one

	12-08-2005 19:01									#57
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I always gave you the benefit of the doubt.

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quote: I always gave you the benefit of the doubt.

That was my plan all along.

	12-08-2005 19:08									#59
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Q: you believe that species evolve from other species, or that they were created directly by God?

Average Joe : thinks - oh, geez, created by God, thats in the bible and all, hes trying to get me to disagree with the bible, secular humanist jerk!

A: The latter

Later the same day, at the aquarium

Docent : Dolphins returned to the sea but seem to be descended from land mammals.

Average Joe: Thats kewl. No junior, you cant have a whole bag of whale shaped saltwater taffy. We're supposed to go to dinner later.


See most folks arent ideologues. They respond differently in different situations. The notion that most Americans are raving creationists simply doesnt jive with my personal experience. Sure, theyre mainly church going, and a decreasing minority of church goers are members of the liberal denominations that explicitly try to reconcile God and evolution. But on a day to day basis, on the rare occasions it comes up, they are functioning Darwinians.

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saying you don't believe in evolution doesn't necessarily mean you have ever given serious thought to the issue. A large percentage may be saying that to identify with their friends, church, community, political party whatever. Its like giving the liberals the bird.

So its silly to take what people say in polls literally on questions like this.