19-08-2005 10:58									#121
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They're an organization with employees.

Very elaborate to keep a joke going for so long...with so many supporters...

	19-08-2005 10:59									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Asher They're an organization with employees. Very elaborate to keep a joke going for so long...with so many supporters...

the current republican administration is doing it.

	19-08-2005 13:41									#123
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quote: Originally posted by Az Ummmf, yeah baby, diversify my tolerance.

Hold on sweety, let me crank up the gaydar jammer in order to keep unsuspecting family people completely in the dark about our illicit satanic lust. Wait, what's that? Oh no it's a homosexuality detection expert from the Family Research Council. Curses, foiled again!

	19-08-2005 14:16									#124
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All homophobes should be assraped. By horses.

	19-08-2005 14:52									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist All homophobes should be assraped. By horses.

How is this different from the statement "All homophobes should be assraped. By horses."? Fighting bigotry and intolerance with bigotry and intolerance is hardly the right way.

	19-08-2005 15:10									#126
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What on earth makes you think (i) that that was a serious comment, and (ii) that it was meant to fight bigotry and intolerance?

	19-08-2005 15:16									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist What on earth makes you think (i) that that was a serious comment,

The lack of a clue, that it was not serious.

quote: and (ii) that it was meant to fight bigotry and intolerance?

I wasn't sure, so gave you the benefit of the doubt. But if it is not meant to fight bigotry and intolerance, it is just a bigotry and intolerance of its own.

	19-08-2005 15:39									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Some of it makes sense to me, especially the statement that boys without a male role model in their lives are going to find things more difficult in finding their own male role.

Accounts for all those flaming gay boyz 'n the hood gangsta queens from single parent families.


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	19-08-2005 15:46									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph The lack of a clue, that it was not serious.

One might've thought that anyone who gives a flying **** about my opinions would've seen enough of my posting style by now to tell that wasn't serious.

quote: I wasn't sure, so gave you the benefit of the doubt. But if it is not meant to fight bigotry and intolerance, it is just a bigotry and intolerance of its own.

Please tell me how it's bigotted. As for tolerance, I never claimed to be a particularly tolerant sort. Tolerance isn't a good in itself - it matters a great deal what you're tolerant about.

You did not answer the question, BTW; "giving someone the benefit of the doubt" doesn't mean anything in context.

	19-08-2005 16:08									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist One might've thought that anyone who gives a flying **** about my opinions would've seen enough of my posting style by now to tell that wasn't serious.

Yes, that pretty much explains why I missed your humor.

quote: Please tell me how it's bigotted. As for tolerance, I never claimed to be a particularly tolerant sort. Tolerance isn't a good in itself - it matters a great deal what you're tolerant about.

I tell you a short story from my youth. Once upon a time I wanted to become a knight in shiny armor, ridding the world from evil and making it a better place. And I was very upset about radicals, skinheads and neonazis, who were demonstrating, beating up people with different opinions and spraying swastikas and fascist slogans. In my rightful anger I loudly stated "Why don't we take some kilometers of barbed wire, set up a camp for that scum and give them a shovel and let them do something useful for a change". An elder, who had heard my outburst of rage, looked at me amused and said: "And this makes you different from them how?" I think he taught me a thing or two in this day.

quote: You did not answer the question, BTW; "giving someone the benefit of the doubt" doesn't mean anything in context.

I did. I wrote "I wasn't sure (...if it was meant to fight bigotry and intolerance...), but I gave your the benefit of the doubt.

	19-08-2005 16:28									#131
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph I tell you a short story from my youth. Once upon a time I wanted to become a knight in shiny armor, ridding the world from evil and making it a better place. And I was very upset about radicals, skinheads and neonazis, who were demonstrating, beating up people with different opinions and spraying swastikas and fascist slogans. In my rightful anger I loudly stated "Why don't we take some kilometers of barbed wire, set up a camp for that scum and give them a shovel and let them do something useful for a change". An elder, who had heard my outburst of rage, looked at me amused and said: "And this makes you different from them how?" I think he taught me a thing or two in this day.

If being intolerant of anything makes me no better than nazis, I have no wish to be better than nazis.

	19-08-2005 16:32									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Sure. There are probably even bodybuilders who are not a$$holes as well.

Endangered species, almost extinct.

	19-08-2005 16:40									#133
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist If being intolerant of anything makes me no better than nazis, I have no wish to be better than nazis.

It is not a tolerance thing. Even after this I am still not tolerant toward neonazis. I just understood, that fighting them with their own means (i.e. by building concentration camps) does not make me any better than them. If I want to fight them effectively without giving up my moral highground, I have to look for better means. Not physically harming these people, but fighting their ideology.

Just like your statement about assraping homophobes, which does not help the cause of homosexuals.

But knowing your "posting style" by now, I am pretty sure, that you wouldn't give a rodents rear about this.

	19-08-2005 16:52									#134
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quote: Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly So they are being successful; it's just that what they call "success" is what we would call "monstrous psychological harm."

Just like all religion

	20-08-2005 03:58									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Actually, no, it doesn't work ...and all but 2 admitted to still being gay.

It worked for two people out of 116. I didn't say it was necessarily effective.

	20-08-2005 10:16									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed It worked for two people out of 116. I didn't say it was necessarily effective.

	20-08-2005 10:29									#137
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph I just understood, that fighting them with their own means (i.e. by building concentration camps) does not make me any better than them.

I would argue with you, but this is not the thread for it.

	20-08-2005 10:30									#138
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Anyone who agrees with FotF isn't just a homophobe but blatantly sexist as well.

	20-08-2005 14:30									#139
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Pah! We decent sexists don't deserve to be associated with their ilk! [/joke]

	20-08-2005 16:15									#140
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OMG, I can't believe you've just said it. Sexism sucks, TLC, shame on you.
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Seriously, There is nothing wrong about non-tolerant attitudes towards active intolerance.

	20-08-2005 16:17									#141
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quote: Originally posted by Az Seriously, There is nothing wrong about non-tolerant attitudes towards active intolerance.

Any minute now you're going to bring in the Barber of Seville....

	20-08-2005 16:20									#142
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I am afraid that I don't fully understand what are you alluding to.

	20-08-2005 16:27									#143
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quote: Originally posted by Az I am afraid that I don't fully understand what are you alluding to.

You'll recognise it, I have no doubt...

http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/henn.../theorem20.html

quote: A man of Seville is shaved by the Barber of Seville if and only if the man does not shave himself. Does the Barber of Seville shave himself? (Russell, ctd. Bunch 86) If the Barber of Seville shaves himself, then he must be a man who does not shave himself, which is a contradiction. If the Barber of Seville does not shave himself, then he must be one of the men who is shaved by the Barber of Seville: another contradiction.

	20-08-2005 16:57									#144
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Yeah, well the problem with this is that it assumes a steady state of people ( being shaved or unshaved, tolerating or intolerating) This isn't the case.

	20-08-2005 17:02									#145
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quote: Originally posted by Az Yeah, well the problem with this is that it assumes a steady state of people ( being shaved or unshaved, tolerating or intolerating) This isn't the case.

And you used to be full of such carefree Silvikrin advert fun.


I'll think of you as Diz Az Ter from now on.

	20-08-2005 17:19									#146
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I am trying to think of some sort of pun including 'molly' and 'pun', but I've failed.

	20-08-2005 17:29									#147
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quote: Originally posted by Az I am trying to think of some sort of pun including 'molly' and 'pun', but I've failed.

That's 'cos you've lost your Az Mojo.


Seen this guy around lately ?

	20-08-2005 17:39									#148
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On a creepy unrelated note, I have a neighbor who looks like that. ( Not small though)

	20-08-2005 17:46									#149
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I have a neighbor who looks like Andre the Giant (not big though)

	20-08-2005 17:47									#150
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I'm still shocked that BK thinks you'll turn gay if you don't spend enough time looking at your fathers dick!