26-08-2005 04:33									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Dis you still believe OBL was behind 911. We all know it was Saddam Hussein with his weapons of mass destruction.

Of course not - it is whithout any doubt the secret invaders from Alpha Centauri that are to blame. OBL has nothing to do with it, he is just some peaceful religious person that works for peace amongs all people.

Who is Saddam Hussein ?

	26-08-2005 04:34									#92
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So why was it we attacked Iraq again?

	26-08-2005 04:35									#93
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS You mean the ones we made into sitting ducks in Iraq?

What sitting ducks ? I haven't heard of such.

	26-08-2005 04:39									#94
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS Helloooo! Reality check - it's ****ed up! Or at least I hate to think what your idea of normal is...

No, it's not fck'ed up - just not as good as it could have been if planned better.

Talking about "normal" - I would really be scared of living in a world controlled by you/your way of thinking - too many dead people.

	26-08-2005 04:40									#95
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Almost 16,000 US casualties at last count...

	26-08-2005 04:43									#96
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat No, it's not fck'ed up - just not as good as it could have been if planned better.

Riiiiiight...

quote: Talking about "normal" - I would really be scared of living in a world controlled by you/your way of thinking - too many dead people.

Uh huh - all those thousands of people that have died in Iraq due to the invasion wouldn't be. Instead we could have done something to prevent the genocide in Sudan - maybe even have prevented the famine in Niger...?

	26-08-2005 04:43									#97
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS Almost 16,000 US casualties at last count...

And ?

	26-08-2005 04:48									#98
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS Riiiiiight... Uh huh - all those thousands of people that have died in Iraq due to the invasion wouldn't be. Instead we could have done something to prevent the genocide in Sudan - maybe even have prevented the famine in Niger...?

Yeah, and ignoring all those that saddam killed and which tradition his sons proudly would have taken up when this great leader of a country 20 or 30 years in the future died. Oh, I forgot - you think that Iraq was a peaceful country where noone was ever hurt by the state.

	26-08-2005 04:50									#99
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat And ?

And I've just answered your question...!

You're on fire today!

	26-08-2005 04:54									#100
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Yeah, and ignoring all those that saddam killed and which tradition his sons proudly would have taken up when this great leader of a country 20 or 30 years in the future died. Oh, I forgot - you think that Iraq was a peaceful country where noone was ever hurt by the state.

The overwhelming majority of those were killed in armed rebellions when we was our ally - hell we practically encouraged him giving him all the tools he needed for his WMDs...

So don't come all moral when we backed his brutality in the past when it suited us.

	26-08-2005 06:41									#101
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quote: Originally posted by GePap The War on Terror is akin to the War on Drugs. We have been fighting THAT war for the last 20 years, and we aren;t any closer to winning.

TWENTY YEARS?

1960s anyone??

It strengthens your point actually that it has been a problem for far longer ( and I realize your 20 year period is probably how long the phrase has been used)

	26-08-2005 20:32									#102
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The post WW2, occupation in Germany, including some armed resisitnace and a significant amount of casulaties, lasted around 10 years after the surrender.

	27-08-2005 00:55									#103
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I actually think Bin Ladin is dead.

	27-08-2005 03:15									#104
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS And I've just answered your question...! You're on fire today!

Nope, you just as usual wrote something wich could be a front page text on Extra Bladet, and that I has a tendency to consider worthless.

	27-08-2005 03:24									#105
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS The overwhelming majority of those were killed in armed rebellions when we was our ally - hell we practically encouraged him giving him all the tools he needed for his WMDs... So don't come all moral when we backed his brutality in the past when it suited us.

The fact that people and politicians in the past had done something bad should make it imposiible for me in present to do otherwise now ? Thats plain stupid.

You also seem to forget that though there was WMD killings in Iraq, most of the killings was done with good old soviet hardware.

As usual you have just proven that you have your feets planted solidly in the thin air.

	27-08-2005 05:06									#106
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quote: We should have had tunnel vision from day one on tracking Bin Laden

Did you just advocate "tunnel vision" as a serious appoach to the problem? I see why you are having problems now on so may issues.

Just so you know, it is the war against terrorism, everywhere. Not Osama Bin Laden, in one place.

	27-08-2005 06:23									#107
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat The fact that people and politicians in the past had done something bad should make it imposiible for me in present to do otherwise now ? Thats plain stupid.

*COUGH**COUGH* RUMSFELD!!! RUMSFELD!!! RUMSFELD!!!



Granted we all know he's a washed up dinosaur throwback to the past - but he is a current washed up dinosaur throwback to the past...

We don't care about human rights - Saddam killed the overwhelming majority of his enemies as our ally. We only went after him the first time cos he got ideas above his station, so don't give me all this humanitarian bullshit especially when the reason we invaded was looking for WMDs - or did you forget that again...?

And talking of the past and present: Uzbekistan is a current ally of the US despite the massacre that was perpetrated there only a few months ago and the US response was to help the Uzbek dictator Karimov cover it up!

So don't give me this bullshit about spreading democracy and standing up for human rights - the US is for oil and a doorstep military presence...

Just how blind are you to the facts that are staring you in the face!!?

quote: You also seem to forget that though there was WMD killings in Iraq, most of the killings was done with good old soviet hardware.

So if Iraq's WMDs were so useless - why did we have to invade the country looking for (and not finding) them!?

How about some consistency in your argument...?

P.S. Remember the US supplied the WMDs in the first place...

quote: As usual you have just proven that you have your feets planted solidly in the thin air.

And you've just proved your first two arguments were utterly conflicted arguments that aren't worth the internet space you've posted them on...

As for the 3rd point, perhaps you're right - I keep hoping one day you will wake up and stop gullibly troughing down all the horseshit Bush and Blair are shovelling you...

Yep I definitely must be crazy...

	27-08-2005 06:50									#108
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS *COUGH**COUGH* RUMSFELD!!! RUMSFELD!!! RUMSFELD!!! Granted we all know he's a washed up dinosaur throwback to the past - but he is a current washed up dinosaur throwback to the past... We don't care about human rights - Saddam killed the overwhelming majority of his enemies as our ally. We only went after him the first time cos he got ideas above his station, so don't give me all this humanitarian bullshit especially when the reason we invaded was looking for WMDs - or did you forget that again...? And talking of the past and present: Uzbekistan is a current ally of the US despite the massacre that was perpetrated there only a few months ago and the US response was to help the Uzbek dictator Karimov cover it up! So don't give me this bullshit about spreading democracy and standing up for human rights - the US is for oil and a doorstep military presence... Just how blind are you to the facts that are staring you in the face!!? So if Iraq's WMDs were so useless - why did we have to invade the country looking for (and not finding) them!? How about some consistency in your argument...? P.S. Remember the US supplied the WMDs in the first place... And you've just proved your first two arguments were utterly conflicted arguments that aren't worth the internet space you've posted them on... As for the 3rd point, perhaps you're right - I keep hoping one day you will wake up and stop gullibly troughing down all the horseshit Bush and Blair are shovelling you... Yep I definitely must be crazy...

You really do what you can to prove my point that your feets are solidly planted into the air.

I guess that you have heard about the cold war despite the fact that you ignore it, but none of your claims hold for a second seen in that view.

You still dig up irrelevant informations and claims that it has any meaning in todays view.

	27-08-2005 23:34									#109
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat You really do what you can to prove my point that your feets are solidly planted into the air.

Absolutely agree with you there - I keep trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not an ignorant dumbass that doesn't even have the absolute minimum of intellect to realise how badly he got his ass handed to him in my last post...

quote: I guess that you have heard about the cold war despite the fact that you ignore it, but none of your claims hold for a second seen in that view. You still dig up irrelevant informations and claims that it has any meaning in todays view.

Irrelevant information!!?

In all my years on Poly, that is possibly the funniest thing I have ever read!

Just what ****ing planet are you on!!? I'm not sure what's funnier - the fact that I handed your ass to you so badly - or the fact that you're pretending it never happened...!

	28-08-2005 00:08									#110
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS Absolutely agree with you there - I keep trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not an ignorant dumbass that doesn't even have the absolute minimum of intellect to realise how badly he got his ass handed to him in my last post... Irrelevant information!!? In all my years on Poly, that is possibly the funniest thing I have ever read! Just what ****ing planet are you on!!? I'm not sure what's funnier - the fact that I handed your ass to you so badly - or the fact that you're pretending it never happened...!

Apparently not the same you are on - mine is called earth, whats the name of yours ? Planet of Fantasy and Illusion ?

	28-08-2005 00:21									#111
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS So why was it we attacked Iraq again?

To give your life a purpose

	28-08-2005 00:31									#112
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Since MOBIUS thinks it is easy to find one man, I say that we send him to the tribal regions of Pakistan to go look. It shouldn't take him long after we drop him off in the nearest village. After that (if he survives) we could send him after a few fugitives here.

But give him all the latest equipment, intelligence, and everything else that a super power has, and maybe he will find him.

	28-08-2005 00:44									#113
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun But give him all the latest equipment, intelligence, and everything else that a super power has, and maybe he will find him.

What kind of advanced equipment are you thinking would help in the Afghani/Paki boarder areas ? And what kind of inteligence do you expect he could be introduced to that other forces can't use ?

	28-08-2005 01:22									#114
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos Did you just advocate "tunnel vision" as a serious appoach to the problem? I see why you are having problems now on so may issues. Just so you know, it is the war against terrorism, everywhere. Not Osama Bin Laden, in one place.

So tell me what the war on terrorism has to do with Saddam Hussein.

Thanks

	28-08-2005 01:25									#115
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat No, it's not fck'ed up - just not as good as it could have been if planned better. Talking about "normal" - I would really be scared of living in a world controlled by you/your way of thinking - too many dead people.

If you say so. The majority of Iraqis think the place is worse off than before the US and UK invaded. That's just common knowledge.

Or maybe they just don't know what they are talking about?

	28-08-2005 01:27									#116
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quote: So tell me what the war on terrorism has to do with Saddam Hussein.

You don't get off that easy, especially with a screen as weak as that.

Thanks

	28-08-2005 01:28									#117
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quote: If you say so. The majority of Iraqis think the place is worse off than before the US and UK invaded. That's just common knowledge.

Kind of like northern France was worse of during Normandy than the previous German occupation.

I know you are smarter than this.

	28-08-2005 01:34									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker So tell me what the war on terrorism has to do with Saddam Hussein. Thanks

Not much. Saddam was just so stupid to attract attention with his claims of having WMD's and denying control that he didn't have it. If he had complied to the requests he and his family could have run Iraq for the next 50 years. Some Iraquis would prefer that - most others wouldn't.

	28-08-2005 01:54									#119
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Not much. Saddam was just so stupid to attract attention with his claims of having WMD's and denying control that he didn't have it. If he had complied to the requests he and his family could have run Iraq for the next 50 years. Some Iraquis would prefer that - most others wouldn't.

Man, you are seriously in dreamland.

How could he have complied with requests when he never had any weapons in the first place????????

Two weapons inspectors came back and said there were no weapons. The US team went in and found no weapons. Not even traces. And it wasn't like they found just a couple of weapons laying around.


THEY FOUND NOTHING

He didn't "attract" attention to those weapons, the US pushed the war and that's a fact. Period.

But the original question stands. How has invading Iraq helped the war on terrorism?

	28-08-2005 01:56									#120
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos You don't get off that easy, especially with a screen as weak as that. Thanks

ANSWER THE QUESTION

Thanks