31-08-2005 05:46									#1
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What plans are in the works from nations around the world to aid in this hurricane disaster that stretches from Louisiana to Florida, and heavy rains and tornados further north, into Tennessee for instance?

Where are you, and what aid plans are underway?

	31-08-2005 05:53									#2
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Wal-Mart gave $1 million.

That's 0.01428% of their 2004 profits (approx $7 billion).

Wouldn't it be great if we had a government that would provide for our people in a time of need so that we didn't need to rely on pittance?

Personally, I don't have much to give. But my folks have given me the green light to choose a relief fund. Don't know how much we'll be giving though.

	31-08-2005 05:58									#3
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Well hooray for your folks. :

Pretty much asking about other countries though.

	31-08-2005 06:13									#4
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Why should they? It's a relatively small natural disaster.

	31-08-2005 06:16									#5
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Understatement if ever there was one.

	31-08-2005 06:18									#6
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Well, when you are putting it in the perspective of international aid, it is. But then, I don't support that kind of thing so maybe I'm biased against it.

	31-08-2005 06:19									#7
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Why should they? I know you must be joking.
For one thing, right now, stick that area on the map, see what it includes.
Texas, just a for instance, is the size of France and England combined.
This devastated area is much larger than Texas.


And Sava, our government has in the past, and will continue to make supplies, and rebuilding loans available.
So don't even.
Again, lets be clear on this question.

WHAT are OTHER nations going to do?

	31-08-2005 06:24									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Verto Well, when you are putting it in the perspective of international aid, it is.

Hurricanes that reach me over 300 miles away from the coastline and still have wind speeds high enough to knock out my power for days don't qualify as small IMO.

	31-08-2005 06:26									#9
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I think we're all surprised of the magnitude of this thing. We've known this was possible for a while but i think everyone is just starting to realize how big it is.
The fact that this is happening in the US also doesn't help: i still have that feeling that the cavalry is going to storm into town, round up the looters and shoot them and the navy's going to ram the USS JFK into that levee to plug the hole.
To tell you the truth i think we're alll a bit surprised that you guys might need help. There was never a question about Sri Lanka needing the whole world to help. It is taking a bit longer for it to sink in that you guys might too.

	31-08-2005 06:28									#10
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So far it's just Sloww asking. I'm not sure if it is needed though.

	31-08-2005 06:30									#11
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand WHAT are OTHER nations going to do?

Help, if the US require help.

Just like European countries help each other when one is overwhelmed by a natural disaster. Or just like western countries helped all the countries hit by the Tsunami, except Burma (which refused aid).

I'm sure many countries will be eager to send what the US can't provide sufficiently, if there's such a thing.

	31-08-2005 06:31									#12
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc So far it's just Sloww asking. I'm not sure if it is needed though.

Maybe that's why there's nothing going on in other countries.
Is it just me or isn't the big picture being presented here? I get the feeling that the information is largely anecdotal, i have a hard time grasping the scope of the whole thing.

	31-08-2005 06:33									#13
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Is France going to do anything to help with New Orleans?

	31-08-2005 06:34									#14
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Hurricanes that reach me over 300 miles away from the coastline and still have wind speeds high enough to knock out my power for days don't qualify as small IMO.

We don't need the rest of the world to give us money for this. Small as in, not a 500billion dollar disaster.

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Exactly. If the rest of the world wants to help, they could try sending help to Iraq.

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Is France going to do anything to help with New Orleans?

If the US tells us that they need help to face the catastrophe, most probably.

Since the US probably already has all the emergency food and transportation it needs, it's likely that the main need for outside help is with know-how. Not that the Yanks can't do anything right , but they probably don't have enough available people with the right skills. France has a skilled emergency corps, and often sends them abroad after catastrophes.

	31-08-2005 06:43									#18
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quote: Is it just me or isn't the big picture being presented here? I get the feeling that the information is largely anecdotal, i have a hard time grasping the scope of the whole thing.

In times past, we probably wouldn't have known much about what was really happening for weeks.

	31-08-2005 06:44									#19
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Oh come on. Offer it to Bush. At the very least it could lead to a thaw between him and Chirac.

	31-08-2005 06:46									#20
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quote: Originally posted by DanS In times past, we probably wouldn't have known much about what was really happening for weeks.

And?

	31-08-2005 06:47									#21
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I don't think anybody has the big picture in view yet. We are getting good timely info, however, considering the circumstances.

	31-08-2005 06:49									#22
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand And Sava, our government has in the past, and will continue to make supplies, and rebuilding loans available. So don't even.

how about a law saying insurance companies must insure against flooding?

that would help...

or is it unpatriotic to do something that lessens the profits of the insurance industry?

	31-08-2005 06:50									#23
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Most people already have flood insurance, Sava.

	31-08-2005 06:52									#24
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Most people already have flood insurance, Sava.

not from what I've been seeing on CNN and FOX

	31-08-2005 07:06									#25
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Most people already have flood insurance, Sava.

I wonder how many can afford it. You gotta wonder what flood insurance costs when you live below sea level...

	31-08-2005 07:07									#26
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I dont know about other countries, but I am going to start giving money to the relief effort. I have no doubt that there is going to be enough money from government aid and charity.

	31-08-2005 07:08									#27
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Venezuela offers fuel, food to hurricane-hit US

The offer is most likely a comparative drop in the bucket, but he sure knows how to play the propaganda game...

	31-08-2005 07:11									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Jonny Venezuela offers fuel, food to hurricane-hit US The offer is most likely a comparative drop in the bucket, but he sure knows how to play the propaganda game...

Jesus, that's f*cking brilliant. Not quite as amusing as Castro offering to send election observers to Florida in 2000, but a much better PR coup.

	31-08-2005 07:48									#29
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quote: Last week, Chavez offered discount gasoline to poor Americans suffering from high oil prices and on Sunday offered free eye surgery for Americans without access to health care.

Where do we sign up?

	31-08-2005 07:56									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Sava how about a law saying insurance companies must insure against flooding? that would help... or is it unpatriotic to do something that lessens the profits of the insurance industry?

Well we end up paying for the damage one way or anther. People who dont have Flood coverage end up getting help From FEMA. I dont know how much they can help, but the point is that etheir way we pay in taxes or insurance rates. But this should spur the debate, should people even live in areas that are prone to be destroyed durring hurricanes?