11-09-2005 00:29									#241
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You didn't explain anything, but I found an analogy. When a part of Croatia was occupied and reffered to itself as "Republic of Serbian Krajina", Croats insisted on using "so called" before the name, or putting it in quotation marks, so as not to give the name legitimacy.

I personally never gave a shite about that.

	11-09-2005 00:31									#242
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One question: as I have understood so far, on the Balkans we can find Greeks, Albanians, Slovenians, Croatians, Serbs, Bosnians.

Why should Montenegro be an independant state, what ethnicity does it stand for?

	11-09-2005 00:32									#243
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Montenegros, duh

	11-09-2005 00:32									#244
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racist

	11-09-2005 00:33									#245
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I don't know anything about your analogy or the circumstances so it's basically mute.

	11-09-2005 00:33									#246
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Montecoloureds

	11-09-2005 00:34									#247
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Yeah but they're obviously negligible!

	11-09-2005 00:37									#248
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Montenegrians are a separate nation from Serbs, but with much similarity and historical ties. In fact, many native people in Montenegro consider themselves Serbs, so the question of independance is tricky. Current political elite in Montenegro is pushing for it, but the people are reluctant to say the least.

	11-09-2005 00:41									#249
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MARKG! apolyton needs to update the montenegrin flag btw. they got a new one. I'm sure this is a priority.

	11-09-2005 00:49									#250
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here it is. pretty kool

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one more try...

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	11-09-2005 00:52									#252
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Ah the Byzantine emblem. No objections. Why do they keep the crown though, they dont have a king.

	11-09-2005 00:53									#253
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That lion belongs to the byzantine emblem? Didn't it also belong to Venice?

	11-09-2005 00:55									#254
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hmm actually modified byzantine emblem but more sophisticated than the one albania uses. there shouldnt be a lion in the heart of the two headed eagle but most importantly they have a sceptre where there was a sword

	11-09-2005 00:57									#255
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I know about another country white a two headed bird in its flag. ALBANIA! Coincidental?

After the fall of communism, the Polaks put a crown on the goose or whatever that bird in their coat of arms is. Could be some kind of anticommunist/nationalist statement.

	11-09-2005 00:59									#256
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could be. i find the crown a bit sad though

	11-09-2005 00:59									#257
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No, birds are just very common symbols, and eagles are obvious choice over chicken and such. Russia also has double headed eagle, USA, Germany and so on...

	11-09-2005 00:59									#258
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wrong again. (but too bored to explain to a chicken like you )

	11-09-2005 01:04									#259
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THE PWNER

	11-09-2005 01:04									#260
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HEY HO LET'S GO!

(lacks the other head, see my little palenteolobalkan?)

	11-09-2005 01:06									#261
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You've looked under the shield mr. bird gynecologist?

	11-09-2005 01:07									#262
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf I know about another country white a two headed bird in its flag. ALBANIA! Coincidental? After the fall of communism, the Polaks put a crown on the goose or whatever that bird in their coat of arms is. Could be some kind of anticommunist/nationalist statement.

That's a white eagle

And the crown was not put on the head of the eagle, but restored - it used to be there before ww2

	11-09-2005 01:07									#263
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that would be THE BIRD

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quote: Originally posted by Heresson That's a white eagle And the crown was not put on the head of the eagle, but restored - it used to be there before ww2

ok but restored to a country that doesnt have a king?

	11-09-2005 01:09									#265
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one head, two heads, crown. who cares? real countries use lions, not some stupid squeaking bird, everybody knows that.

	11-09-2005 01:10									#266
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It seems that two headed eagles have been taken from Byzantine Empire:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-headed_eagle

quote: Two-headed eagles are common heraldic symbols in Eastern Europe, deriving from the emblem of the Byzantine Empire.

	11-09-2005 01:10									#267
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the bird would **** on the lion's head and the lion couldlnt do squat

	11-09-2005 01:10									#268
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The Polish president wears a crown. Didn't you know?

	11-09-2005 01:12									#269
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion It seems that two headed eagles have been taken from Byzantine Empire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-headed_eagle quote: Two-headed eagles are common heraldic symbols in Eastern Europe, deriving from the emblem of the Byzantine Empire.

see palenteologobalkan?
as if wikipedia is anything important, but on this it's right.

even the crescent moon turkey uses for its flag is of byzantine origin

	11-09-2005 01:15									#270
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Texas!

Last edited by Lonestar on 11-09-2005 at 02:00