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Bereta_Eder is offline Bereta_Eder
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What IS this double eagle thing? I don't know all the colours, and some are flags and others just symbols but ...

Albania - Black two-headed eagle on red background
Serbia - White two-headed eagle
Greece - two-headed eagle (I've seen it on a monastery in Crete)
Russia - two headed eagle
Byzantines - two headed eagle (according to BE)
Maccas - two headed eagle (According to Gangerolf's post)

Apart from Albania, the Byzantine / Orthodox thing would explain it - except that prior to the Ottomans the Albanians were predominantly Orthodox before converting. Too bad they forgot to redesign their flag ...

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yeah
hey even the turks were christian before meeting the arabs.

As to what it is, I could try and explain but with care, don't take every word for granted.

The two heads on the eagle were the borders of west and east that needed guarding. that's why the eagle looks so pissed looking to both directions. the round ball with the cross on it signifies the authority of the church (it is actually a holy artifact in orthodoxc religion), the sword on the other hand signifies the power of the emperor. both signify the duality of authority in the empire (emperor/patriarch).

as for that monestary in Crete, the double headed eagle is one of the symbols of orthodoxy.

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the bird would **** on the lion's head and the lion couldlnt do squat


he could throw his axe at the filthy thing

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Well, some claim two-headed eagle emblemat was actually brought by Turks, but I've also read that it was put as a symbol of the Byzantines by Michael VIII Plalaiologos or somewhere about that time, to symbolise the reborned Empire guarding two parts of itself, Europe and Asia, after the reconquista of large piece of the European part by the Empire of Nicea under John III Dukas Watatzes and Michael VIII.

Oh, and Albanians were perhaps not majorly, but largely, catholic befor becoming Muslim,

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Hmm...it looked smaller on google

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Texas Again.

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What constitutes the Montengrine ethnicity? They have no language of their own and by their religion should easily compare to their neighbours.

If they're muslims, they're Bosnians or Albanians. If they're Catholics, they're Croatians. If they're Orthodox, they're Serbs. Why make them a nation of their own?

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Did Texas join the US voluntarily in face of the Mexican threat or were they simply annexed by the stronger nation?

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I guess they're (montenegro, not texas) to Serbia what Austria is to Germany. Or something like that.

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What's the difference between Austrians and Bavarians?

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The shade of grey in the Lederhosen.

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Did Texas join the US voluntarily in face of the Mexican threat or were they simply annexed by the stronger nation?


Texans were basically Americans.

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An American national identity outside of the east coast in the 1830s? Un-possible.

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Ummm, the Texans (apart from the Mexicans) were settlers from the US.

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Which cities were they produced in then? How could Mexico occupy their territory without declaring war to the US beforehand?

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Huh?

Americans moved to Texas, which was originally Mexican territories. The Mexicans tried to take away the poore Texan's slaves, and they revolted.

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Why didn't you nuke them?

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An American national identity outside of the east coast in the 1830s? Un-possible.


What was New Orleans then?

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French?

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In the 1830s?

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It's still pretty French now.

Well, it was.

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What constitutes the Montengrine ethnicity? They have no language of their own and by their religion should easily compare to their neighbours.

If they're muslims, they're Bosnians or Albanians. If they're Catholics, they're Croatians. If they're Orthodox, they're Serbs. Why make them a nation of their own?


Albanian language is not the same as Bosnian, Serbian, and Croatian.
Anyway, they say that language is a dialect that has army.
If they think they have their own language (and perhaps they do, Croatian girls I've lived with were absolutely sure Croatian and Serbian are separate languages), if they have centuries of separate history... why force them?
Austria is something different, for its separation from Germany is a matter of XIX century. Until then, it was simply the leadning German state, imo

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You lived with Croatian girls? Did you sh@g them?

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I thought Heresson was a little too young and a little too Christian to that effect?

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He's around 20 and studying, don't know about his Christian-ness though.

edit: he's even older than me so I have no clue what you're getting at. I know he acts like 14 though.

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edit: he's even older than me

I though he was 15. 16 tops. Are you sure you ain't confusing him with somebody else?

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Herreson's in uni Spiff.

 
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