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Sir Og
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Lurking in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria
Jun 2001
time: 07:33
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The problem with Balkan countries is that during the Ottoman empire's rule the people moved around a lot and when the different nations started getting liberated there were signifficant teritories with very mixed populations.
This gave all Balkan countries the pretext to claim neighbouring teritories.
As far as Macedonia is concerned however Bulgaria has the biggest claim because 2/3 of the population was Bulgarian. There were ofcourse Greeks, Turks, Albanians and Serbs but the majority were Bulgarians.
After Yugoslavia was created the official communist line was that the Bulgarians in Macedonian were of Macedonian nationality (there was no such nationality 60 years ago). Macedonian language was created and Macedonian history was invented. Nowdays there is a signifficant number of Macedonians who think of themselves as Macedonians (not Bulgarians) and want to live in an indipendent country of their own. This is quite understandable considering how much suffering these people have endured in the past 100 years.
Bulgaria has no claims over any neighbouring teritories today. We only want Bulgarians who wich live in the neighbouring countries to be given the right to learn Bulgarian and not be subject to systematic assymilation as has been the case too often in the past.
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Sir Og
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Lurking in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria
Jun 2001
time: 07:33
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Originally posted by Heresson
I'm pretty sure Bulgarians/Slavs never captured Soluń/Thessalonike.
Also, what's that thing over it on the other map? |
In 1235AD Bulgaria defeated Epiros and Solun was under Bulgarian rule for a short period of time.
In 19th century there was a signifficant Slavic/Bulgarian population there, hence Bulgarian claims at the time.
I have no idea ot that thing on the San Stefano map is. It looks like a fire with the colors of the Bulgarian flag. The green territories are territories with Bulgarian population.
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Sir Og
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Lurking in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria
Jun 2001
time: 07:33
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Originally posted by Pekka
No problem in my eyes. Just nuke'em all and bring the Finns in. |
You won't be able to stand the heat. And I am not talking just about the weather. 
Last edited by Sir Og on 06-09-2005 at 15:48
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:33
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1. Manhattan - as Gepap points out whites are only 70% of manhattan (and yes, virtually all Jews in Manhattan are white) There are significant numbers of White Protestants in Manhattan, though small and diminishing numbers of white "ethnics". I very much doubt that Jews are a majority of Manhattan.
2. Herzl - a dreamer, who talked of a Jewish state based on the seven hour day, a Jewish state speaking multiple languages, a Jewish state in Uganda or El Arish in Sinai - I wouldnt consider something he confided to his diary as a Zionist "plan".
3. United States
During the American revolution, there were plans to incorporate Quebec, Nova Scotia, and the British West Indies.
At the end of the Mexican American war maximalists wanted to take the Sonora, Baja California, and the other northern states of Mexico as well as what was actually annexed.
4. United Kingdom - shouldnt we be going with maximalists, not just how big the empire actually was? IIUC there were folks who wanted to annex Afghanistan, the Congo, etc.
5. French Catholics in the northeast. During the late 19th century they came from Quebec to work in the mills of New England, and their descendants are still prominent in New Hampshire, parts of Maine, and even some neighborhoods in Greater Boston.
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