27-03-2001 23:50									#1
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I'll open this new thread so that the Annals of the Modern Age pbem game may be placed here.

Really looking forward to Lepanto,
Exile

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	28-03-2001 01:41									#2
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As a Turk Exile, you shouldn't be to happy about Lepanto!

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	28-03-2001 02:41									#3
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Turn order:

1. Commercial States=AI (no e-mail)
2. Berbers=AI (no e-mail)
3. Holy Roman Empire=cpoulos (cpoulos@gobi.com)
4. Spain=Fiera (jgv@edinoesis.com)
5. French=Henrik (henrik.lohmander@telia.com)
6. English=Hogfather (m_carreras@hotmail.com)
7. Ottoman Empire=Exile (exile1957@aol.com)

Ok, let the armies roll through Europe.

	28-03-2001 02:43									#4
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Queen Elizabeth I Regina over the Kingdom of England has with great speed and goodwill forwarded the save to the Ottoman Emperor.

OOC: Henrik, what was it you send me besides the *.net save? I can't open or execute it anywhere.

	28-03-2001 03:44									#5
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Ok, just to make certain I've got this correct;

1.) Run the Civ2 program.

2.) Now, is it "Load a game," or "Multiplayer game"?

3.) Click on the saved game.

4.) The game will come up at the end of the last player's turn.

5.) End that turn, so that the next (Turkish) turn will come up.

6.) Play my turn.

7.) Don't end my turn, but save the game as a .net file

8.) Send the .net file via email to the next player.

Is this correct? Am I leaving anything out? As soon as I'm sure this is the right procedure, I'll play my turn and send it along.

We might just win Lepanto this time,
Exile



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	28-03-2001 04:33									#6
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Exile, when we made our first attempt to play a PBEM game, dizepam came up with a complete explanation for us first-timers. Check it out here:
http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum49/HTML/000009.html?7#7

If you still have any doubt, don't hesitate to ask.

PS: Lepanto will be my greatest hour.

Don Juan de Austria.

	28-03-2001 05:09									#7
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Well, I followed the instructions Fiera pointed out. I must be doing something wrong. Everything is ok up to the point where he indicates that a password shou

	28-03-2001 18:54									#8
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Strange, I tried posting in this tread when I was in school. It didn't work, all I got was this strange empty post. Then I posted again and suddenly a lot of posts above my empty one (and the empty post itself) dissapeard.
What happened?
Also when I went to the Forum main page it looked like a lot of the Forums (including the comunity and the civ3 forums) appeared as totaly empty

If you don't belevie me look at the amount of posts this thread is supposed to have and then count the actual number of posts, really strange!
[This message has been edited by Henrik (edited March 28, 2001).]

	29-03-2001 00:37									#10
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Never fear, Exile. I have gotten and played turn 2, and sent it to Spain. Two things guys: I will be away from Friday to Sunday night, so we have to take a mini-break in the game then. Sorry to inconvience you dudes, but I promised a certain little guy (my son ), a little vacation, and that's one promise that will never be broken. The second thing is: starting 3/30/01 my e-mail will be cpoulos@visto.com. Again sorry to break the game, but I will be back Sunday night and will play my turn first thing.

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	29-03-2001 04:38									#11
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The wise and mighty Don Juan de Austria has already moved his troops, and now it's the King of France turn.

The evil and treacherous King of Granada, with help of his allies the Berberian Kings, raised a galliot fleet seeking to take control of the Gibraltar Strait. My galleons sank the enemy fleet mercilessly, as they'll do with anyone trying to challenge my lordship over the Strait.

Yo, el Rey.

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	29-03-2001 04:58									#12
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Oh, and Chris, I wish you have a great time with your son!

	30-03-2001 10:27									#14
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The mighty king of France has after negotiations whit the Berbers (that was allowed, right?) started to build a new modern army consisting of Pikemen and Harcebusiers. The modernization of the French army is lead by Berber experts which the Berber ruler decided to exchange whit France.
In exchange the Berbers where given the knowledge of Janisaries (I guess Spain will be mad at me ) and other widespread French knowledge.
France has also begun a large economical buildup by promoting quarters for merchants in far more cities than prevouis.

*The file has been sent to Hogfather*

	29-03-2001 23:18									#16
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I guess it would be apropriate to tell when you have negotiated whit a human player though, if people don't know about a treaty they have whit someone we are going to have a problem...
And what if you succesfully negotiate a peace whit someone who isnt about to let you of that easy?
I see a problem here, human negotiations will be hard...
Negotiating whit the AI is another thing though, I love helping the Berbers agains't their enemies (since I am not their enemies ), they are able to build Janisaries, right? If not then my help to them was in vain

	30-03-2001 02:46									#17
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Leather and Weapons dealers have departed from the glorious British Isles seeking markets to sell their goods to.
Meanwhile, the conquest of Ireland begins to brood...

*sent to exile*

	30-03-2001 04:51									#18
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(Creative aside) Yes, negotiations and tech trade w/other kingdoms was intended as a function of the scenario. Recommended, actually. Perfectly permissable and reasonable considering the history. The French during this period did arrange an entente between themselves and the Barbary kingdoms, w/the idea that Barbary raiders should then fall on Italian and Spanish coastlines, rather than French. Check the Readme file for the scenario for more, including some strategy suggestions.

(In character)

Selim II, Sultan of all the Turks, Caliph of Islam, Defender of the faithful, addresses all the infidels in the lands of the Franks; Bow Down! Submit to Islam! The sword of Allah is being sharpened even now.

There is a storm rising in the east.

Inshallah!
(Exile)

	30-03-2001 05:59									#19
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HRH Charles calls on all of Christian Europe to put aside minor religious differences and band together to stop the heathens who refuse to recognize the true faith. Already our border cities have fallen to the dogs of Islam. He will crush them, as we have their calvery patrols, but we call on the great powers to resist these devils. <>Turn sent to Spain.

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	30-03-2001 07:12									#20
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Our ambassador in England has brought us the secret of Gunpowder, which he has got from the English in exchange for Medicine. I may upgrade him, since he has done a great service to us.

Yo, el Rey.

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Everything else quiet, game sent to Henrik.

	30-03-2001 10:49									#21
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France is the victim of an atrocity! A regiment of vacationing (read as "vacationing", propaganda you know ) crossbowmen was greated by a Spanish herald, this herald concluded that if France wouldn't pay Spain the sum of 200 gold a state of war would arise between these states. Naturaly France rejected this unfair and foul proposition, the Spanish embassador then concluded that from this day on Spain and France would be at war (was this really spains intention?).
A rearanging of taxes has taken place in France, while the people could be more happy whit the changes, a balance in the French budget has now been created.
Rumours claim that a french army has landed on Corsica, but those rumours are denied by the French king.
(save has been sent to Hogfather)

	31-03-2001 02:14									#22
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He, he, that's what you deserved for tresspasing my frontiers...

Well, I guess I'll try to arrange a peace treaty next turn... who knows, if I'm lucky enough the AI will even pay me some gold in tribute...

	31-03-2001 02:55									#23
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Diplomatic relations have boomed and England seems to be seeked out as an ally as the Commmercial States and the Austrians have offered alliances. In exchange for 260 gold, the Austrian Empire has agreed to the trade of Polearms and Turkey and Britain have signed a peace treaty.

England then contacted Spain and they demanded we declare war on France to which Britain refused and so they later demanded the secret of Polearms. Due to our refusal, Spain has declared war on the Kingdom of Britain! Britain then with the "my enemy's enemy is my friend" policy Britain quickly contacted France and, after the payment of 150 gold and the secret of navigation an alliance was secured.

Meanwhile, Queen Elizabeth has addressed the nation and called upon the people of Britain to rally forth in the defense of the Kingdom and military spending has been greatly increased supported by an incipient growth of mining industries and an improvement in road networks to aid communications and the movement of troops within the isles.

In this year, mounted British troops landed near the coast of Antwerp and seized a Spanish Caravan after a brief skirmish.

	31-03-2001 03:45									#24
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The Venetian Dogs have attacked the Turkish city of Aydin on the coast of Asia Minor, but local Janizzary contingents have manned the walls of the town and repulsed the assault. The Porte suspects that the craven Frankish pig-dogs who now occupy Rhodes have sponsored this harassing raid.

They will pay.

Probing attacks in northern Hungary have revealed the weakness of the decadent Franks of the upper Danube. The armies of the Sultan are even now organizing for the march on Vienna.

The Sublime Porte has declared the Aegean Sea mare nostrum. The Italian pirates must vacate these isles or be driven out by Turkish naval forces.

Inshallah,
(Exile)

	02-04-2001 09:54									#26
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Bah, everybody against Spain... Why am I not surprised?

BTW, this game is really beginning to get interesting, I believe we made an amazing election... Thanks, Exile!

I just hope that you all don't beat me too fast...

	02-04-2001 16:01									#27
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Thanks, Fiera. The period is full of potential, and if one is a competent Civ2 player, it just breezes by. Pikes, Muskets, Culverins, and Ships-of-the-Line are interesting weapons and in the default game they are hardly used; everyone is much more interested in racing to the 20th century units. I created this scenario with the hope that, some time, someone would want to try it on MP. I wish that the playtesting process could have occurred with a slew of avid players. It would certainly have improved the scenario. With the gracious assistance of Henrik and his excellent improvements to the events file, I am even now preparing a version 2.0 which will include some of the more problematic aspects of the period, including the English Civil War, Gustavus Adolphus military adventure into northern Germany, and the various campaigns of the Polish monarchs. If it's more than just the period of the scenario that you like, if the game mechanics and size is what you find attractive, then take a look at one of my other scenarios, Mediterranean Dark Age or American Empire. I think I can say that extensively reworked tech trees are my forte, and I enjoy constructing these immensely. Too many scenario designers go straight to the pertinent military technologies and so leave out a lot. Ideology and philosophy have historically played a huge part in the determination of just who fielded what weapons in conflict. There are times when I actually feel like there are not enough tech slots to really do justice to a period.


This post is also a test to see how well the forum will work after the modifications made by the overseers.

Salutations,
Exile

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	02-04-2001 19:30									#28
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BTW, my modpack, Europe in Crisis, is finished!

Download it at Fiera's site.

I believe to have covered the industrial and military pretty well... all part of the "Imperial Plans" of Europe...

	02-04-2001 22:49									#29
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Who's crowing? I'm simply "in character." Ever seen an actual communique from the Sublime Porte from the 16th or 17th century? I cannot hold a candle to the real thing. For some nifty visuals of Turkish period splendor, see the cool scenery from the flick, "Baron Munchausen." There is some great stuff in that movie; somebody did their homework.

Inshallah,
(Exile)