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Chris Edgemon
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New York City
Oct 2001 time: 00:15
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20 each:
Turks
Arabs
Magyars
Khmer
Ethiopians
Polynesians
Inca
Mali(s)
thanks.
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Kamasz
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Poland
Oct 2001 time: 05:15
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poles 20
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Cantonek
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Bydgoszcz, POLAND
Oct 2001 time: 06:15
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Poles 20
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Internationalist
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Thessaloniki,Hellas
Oct 2000 time: 05:15
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Locutus
This is just a suggestion , but 300+ posts are a lot I think.Perhaps you should open Part 4?
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Mankind
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Poland
Oct 2001 time: 06:15
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quote: Okay, clearly both Britain and Poland played a very important role in cracking the enigma code. I don't know enough about the mathematics behind the code to say "okay, Pole did 30% and Britain did 70%" so lets just say Enigma was cracked by both countries |
But poles cracked enigma...
Marian Rajewski Guessed a riddle enigma
THE ORIGINS OF THE ENIGMA/ULTRA OPERATION by Dr. Wladyslaw Kozaczuk
Attachment: enigma.jpg
This has been downloaded 97 time(s).
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lhaydi
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Poland
Oct 2001 time: 06:15
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Poles 20
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Staszek
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Warsaw, Poland
Oct 2001 time: 06:15
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I hope this three textlines will close the Enigma discussion:
Date: Jun 30, 2000
Source: British Chamber of Commerce
AN ENGIMA
The three Polish scientists who handed over the Enigma secrets to British Intelligence in 1939 have pride of place on a limited edition postal cover issued by Bletchley Park Post Office.
Only 1000 of these covers have been issued with stamps cancelled by the Royal Mail on both the last day of 1999 and the first day of 2000. The cover was launched by Bletchley Park's own post office as part of the fundraising effort to save the park as an international heritage site.
For the Polish festival held at Bletchley Park last year, the post office produced two covers with Polish and British stamps cancelled simultaneously by the postal services of each country sixty years to the day that famous Enigma machine was handed over.
Date: Sep 18, 2000
Source: BBC Monitoring
Poland: Duke of York presents Enigma coding machine to Polish premier
Text of report by Polish radio on 18th September
[Announcer] The Duke of York has presented Prime Minister Jerzy Buzek with an original of the German Enigma coding machine. The ceremony was attended by Defence Minister Bronislaw Komorowski and Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister Radek Sikorski.
[Reporter] Three young mathematicians, who had worked for the Polish intelligence service, broke the Enigma code. The Poles offered Britain and France the details of how German dispatches were coded. The Duke of York emphasized that breaking the Enigma code by the Poles had considerably contributed to military successes of the allies during World War II. They helped us in the battle for Britain and the battle for the Atlantic, Prince Andrew said.
During the ceremony Prime Minister Jerzy Buzek indicated that Encyclopedia Britannica still contains an entry which says that it was first and foremost the British who broke the Enigma code. The Duke of York promised he would take an interest in this issue and the entry would be changed. Finally, Prince Andrew showed Prime Minister Jerzy Buzek how the Enigma machine worked.
[Announcer] The mathematicians who broke the Enigma code [in 1933], Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Rozycki and Henryk Zygalski have recently been awarded posthumously the Grand Crosses of the Order of Polish Rebirth. In July this year the prime minister presented them in Warsaw to representatives of their families.
Date: Nov 16, 2000
Source: BBC Monitoring
Polish, British historians uncover Polish intelligence archives
Text of report by the Polish news agency PAP
Warsaw, 16th November: Archive materials of Polish intelligence from World War II - a collection of radio messages and courier reports, and appraisals of the Enigma - have been found in Great Britain.
"This contradicts the views that all the files of Polish intelligence were destroyed. The very first months of work of the Polish-British archives and history commission have brought results," Prof Daria Nalecz, State Archives director, said at the commission's meeting on Thursday [16th November].
The commission of historians and archivists, which is investigating evidence of Polish intelligence activities, has already found in the British archives collections of radio messages and courier reports exchanged between Warsaw and London. The materials include periodic appraisals of Polish intelligence activities made by the British and intelligence tasks commissioned by them.
There are also reports about the V-1 and V-2 missiles, and correspondence concerning the German Enigma encoding machine provided by the Polish intelligence services. It has also been confirmed that British intelligence materials concerning the German preparations to attack the USSR were based on Polish intelligence reports.
Polish intelligence - highly active in World War II - procured many valuable materials not just from Polish territories but also from Germany and from occupied European countries, and reached as far as the Middle East. During the war it was established on the basis of an allied agreement of October 1940 that all Polish intelligence materials would be passed on to the British. In the autumn of 1945, the government in exile handed over to the British authorities the remaining archives of our intelligence which allegedly were subsequently destroyed.
"Poland's contribution to the struggle against the Third Reich in the war of intelligence was disproportionately high in relation to our military potential. In this area we contributed more to the victory than on the battlefields," Jan Nowak-Jezioranski, legendary war-time courier, said.
"No British historian would doubt the enormous contribution by Polish intelligence to the victory over the Third Reich," Prof Christopher Andrew, a British member of the commission, said.
The commission envisages the completion of its work in 2002 and the joint publication of Polish and English editions of the uncovered documents.
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jdd2007
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Cincinnati
Aug 2001 time: 00:15
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Settlers who have given Poland 20 recently-
MarsJan*
Kalbarczyk
Henryk Przerwa*
almaryk*
bartuk
Maveus*
mrozu
vasyl*
Tarquinius
vasyl (voted again poles-20, ???)
DZASKUL*
eXimius
lukasz
borg
ogotai
Staszek*
lukaski*
groza1
Goomich*
Kolobos
hewhocaves
Glazer
Dessloch
Tomasz Wysocki*
jigit
Naphta
Kamasz*
Cantonek*
lhaydi*
pmajewski*
rafal*
kakaj_azor
Darek87*
valdi77*(voted for RUSSIANS as well)
Ctty*
Gimitar*
vonholl
karol*
*indicates that they ONLY voted for poles in their original post note-about 5 of them voted for poles and one or two other civs...
Now remember, a number of these made other votes besides poles, and have posted other messages. however, more than a few have 1 very short post...
now thanks to LoD, i have found that many of these came from polish civ sites and are not fake, but still arnt TRUE APOLYTONERS
Last edited by jdd2007 on 09-10-2001 at 15:46
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cort
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my votes;
turks 20
israeli/jews 20
huns 20
aztecs 20
mayas 20
nigerian 20
hungarians 10
serbs 10
portugues 10
dutch 10
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Mankind
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Poland
Oct 2001 time: 06:15
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leave us alone...
everything is ok acording the rules....
Why you are jealousies ? [ its looks like it...] and what for you seek holes in all?
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Mankind
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Poland
Oct 2001 time: 06:15
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Gramphos -
So what?! you probobly don't know how bad is connection to the internet in Poland, they can't post as much us you, you*lucky* guy with good intenret connection... wow.
And i second staszek's post
Zealot-
To you also surely something does not fit... you want to make inquiry?!
And I assure that these people what voted are separate men, nobody here does not want to play in such stupidities like "repeated registering", only you think so because obviosly you are bored (? )
Last edited by Mankind on 07-10-2001 at 05:01
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