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La Fayette
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albi, france
Oct 2000
time: 06:12
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Someone wrote about that challenge a few months ago: winning ww2 scenario without time limit but playing as Franco, benighted leader of the Spanish.
I finished it yesterday (august 1961) and I wish to tell you: it's REAL FUN.
In june 1940, Spain is about 15 techs late compared with the Allies or the Axis, almost no roads, almost no mines, 5th civ on the powergraph, way behind the French and miles away from the Russians, the Axis or the Allies.
If you like building a strong civ, I believe that is needed.
If you enjoy fighting, you can't avoid it (the Russians lost more than 800 units in my game).
Nukes? Yes sir (I tried to avoid nuclear war; nevertheless more than 20 nukes were blown).
Have a try! You'll enjoy it.
(personally I enjoyed it so much that I am now busy playing it as French)
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:12
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Yeah, well done!
I think I have to try it myself, some lonely day... but then, don'T they start in Monarchy? is there a way to change it during the scenario? no. is it fun to play with a huge empire on Monarchy? no.
umm...
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La Fayette
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albi, france
Oct 2000
time: 06:12
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Latest news on the BBC (ww2 scenario, French):
August 1956, surprise attack by french forces (main task force = 30 howitzers); Berlin falls; Axis empire splits into 3 smaller empires; Aztec rebels in Benelux and northern France; American rebels in Italy and Balkans.
Blitzkrieg going on. (wir müssen unser lebensraum finden)
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La Fayette
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albi, france
Oct 2000
time: 06:12
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To make it clear to civsplitting specialists:
No civ was split into 3 in 1 blow.
The sequence was as follows:
French take Berlin = American rebels in Italy + Axis capital moved to Dresden
French take Dresden (on the same turn) = Aztec rebels in Benelux + Axis capital moved to Prague (ST: sorry I mean Praha).
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La Fayette
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albi, france
Oct 2000
time: 06:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Thranduil on 05-03-2001 04:16 PM
. BTW, is Democracy a better idea for this scenario? I suppose not... 
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I used Democracy.
Try Fundy, if you feel like it, and let us know.
BTW here are the latest news on the BBC:
December 1960: All russian objectives have become french (purple color). (french rebels, dark blue, appeared when french troops, purple colored, entered Moscow, but they did not last long). French (democratic, purple colored) troops are now in London and Washington.
One fat city named New York and a few middle size objectives remain foreign.
Victory in april 1961? Our reporter will let you know.
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DrFell
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Decided to have a go as Neutrals. Not as difficult as I thought - it's October 1949 and the Neutral Scandinavian and Iranian howitzers are gathering in Bergen for the invasion of England. Taking England should be easy, but attacking the Axis is gonna be hell, they've got Manhattan Project and there's no way I'm getting the laser anytime soon. Although I was soon reduced to 2 cities, it was suprisingly easy, building airports in Tehran and Stockholm and airlifiting freights over to be transported to England produced tons of cash fortunately since I needed to research robotics myself.
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Contest: Whoever wins as the neutruals, the turks, and the spanish wins!
(If you can win as the turks or neutruals it goes without saying that you can win as the allies axis french and russians
All I need is to win as the neutruals (I've won the other 2). This will be difficult!
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As nuetruals, the best thing is to sell enough to build airports in both Tehran and Stockholm, and then you can send routes from tehran to england and get 1000 gold a route.  Unfortunately, I still can't kill anybody. I might bribe the axis cities, but first i'll steal some techs
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La Fayette
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albi, france
Oct 2000
time: 06:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Dissident on 05-11-2001 03:13 AM
Are you guys playing the original ww2 scenario that came with the game?.
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Yes we are and, believe me, it's FUN (the delicious feeling that you are so tiny and weak that you never will manage to fight those giant monsters, Axis, Allies and Russians).
Here is a short summary of my experience (1 game as Franco, 1 game as DeGaulle):
The main problem is to stay alive and grow your civ during the first 10 years.
Spain stays alive quite easily with help of somewhat careful diplomacy (don't forget to bow before talking to any of the big 3). Then you should be able to fight the French victoriously (but I was unable to avoid being at war with the Axis doing that and was compelled to prepare very quickly a strong surprise attack allowing me to take Berlin and split the Axis empire).
Playing DeGaulle, I never managed to be at peace with the Axis (looks quite reasonable from a historical point of view ).
But the Axis asked for a cease fire any time they took a french city and RESPECTED it (more or less). Then it became some kind of 'compte à rebours' (telling backwards: 5,4,3,2... ), trying to conquer Spain before the Axis had conquered what was left of France.
I suppose that the problem is roughly the same for the Neutral Leader (impossible to make peace with the Axis after they have taken Amsterdam in june 1940, hence you are bound to loose Belgrade 2 years later or so; can you then get strong enough to defend Stockholm or is your small civ condemned to a new start with only Tehran?).
I shall have a serious try from tomorrow on (hope this helps for those who wish to have a try too).
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Marquis de Sodaq
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... no, a Marquis.
Jul 2000
time: 23:12
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Report on BBC1, March 1945: SPANISH MENACE SUBDUED
The heady Spanish leader, El Marqui de Vasco, has been chased back to Madrid by the French and their allies  , the Axis powers. De Gaulle told the press that El Marqui had deeply offended the French by making diplomatic contact. "Vee had no choice but to declare war on zem, non? Our good friends, zee Germans, who were so kind to take from us zat rats' nest, Paris, will aid us een zees struggle." El Marqui requested assistance from Allied forces, but was declined. "With the entire German navy off the coast of Portugal, our own efforts should be so much easier," declared Churchill. The minister did, however, send a case of brandy to the spaniards as a gesture of goodwill.
Altho efforts to cross the Pyrenees proved futile and bloody, the superior navies emptied coastal Spanish cities of defenders, forcing rushed conscription, in turn wreaking havoc on the feeble spanish economy. The French freed the city of Tangiers from spanish tyrrany in January. The Spanish decided the war was too much, and are now taking a siesta. El Marqui closed his capitulation speech declaring, "We weell crush you een an alternate reality!"
[This message has been edited by Marquis de Sodaq (edited May 11, 2001).]
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