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Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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The only way we should let this ****ing fool back into the country is to send him to prison.

Six months ago, he entered Afghanistan “to help the Islamic government” because “the Taliban are the only government that actually provides Islamic law.” When asked if he supported the September 11 attacks, he hesitated. “That requires a pretty long and complicated explanation. I haven’t eaten for two or three days, and my mind is not really in shape to give you a coherent answer.” When pressed, he said, “Yes, I supported it.”

http://www.msnbc.com/news/666055.asp

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Stefan Härtel is offline Stefan Härtel
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Jul 1999
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He for sure had his reasons.

Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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Got spare money?

At least he'll get sixty virgins when he dies.

MOBIUS is offline MOBIUS
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Dec 1999
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I thought it was great that British Muslims were volunteering to go to Afghanistan... Suffering from ads?

Sorry, but we don't want you in our country!!!

Then there's always the possibility they might die fighting for their cause...

Failing that if they decide to return - we can charge them with treason!!!

DinoDoc is offline DinoDoc
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Sep 1999
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What's the problem? Just shoot him "while he's attempting to escape" and be done with it. Or is that too direct a solution?

Stefu is offline Stefu
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Jan 1970
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I wonder how long it'll be until someone claims this guy's civil liberties are being infringed upon.

MOBIUS is offline MOBIUS
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quote:
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I wonder how long it'll be until someone claims this guy's civil liberties are being infringed upon.


I think they'd already have been infringed upon if Dino Doc was looking after him...

Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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Back in the day he could be shot onsite.

DinoDoc is offline DinoDoc
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Sep 1999
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I think they'd already have been infringed upon if Dino Doc was looking after him...


Well, if I had my way, the NA would have been told to go to town on him. So, I think I was being fairly restrained earlier. Make no mistake, however, the man will be put before a military tribunal and will likely be executed as the traitor he is.

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Oct 2000
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Let him share his comrades fate. He isn't an american anymore, he is one of them.

The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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Mar 2000
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From what I gather in the article, he never actually renounced his citizenship, and as a native-born, he cannot be striped of it. Further, while he is part of the Taleban, there is nothing to suggest that he is part of al Queda; whatever else may happen, he isn't headed for military tribuanl, by the administration's own requirements.

KrazyHorse is offline KrazyHorse
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If he had renounced his citizenship he would not be guilty of treason. As it stands, he is.

Seeker is offline Seeker
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Jan 1970
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An American citizen, fighting against the US government, for another nation, is definitely a traitor.

Don't Americans take some kind of pledge or oath of allegiance?

Kyle is offline Kyle
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quote:
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An American citizen, fighting against the US government, for another nation, is definitely a traitor.

Don't Americans take some kind of pledge or oath of allegiance?



Only naturalized ones. But it's clearly stated in the Constitution what a traitor is.

Seeker is offline Seeker
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What about the thing in schools where you swear to worship the flag or whatever?

Kyle is offline Kyle
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No one is required to say that. Hell, my liberal History teacher back in HS, would always add "some day" to the end of it. It's a non-binding pledge.

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quote:
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An American citizen, fighting against the US government, for another nation, is definitely a traitor


That's what I said.

*End Is Forever* is offline *End Is Forever*
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Can we (Britain) still hang people for treason?

Juggler is offline Juggler
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Just don't let these foreign fighters return home.
If they want to fight in Afghanistan, then let them live there.

Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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Apr 1999
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While he is a US citizen, he has done his deed in Afghanistan. There is no reason the NA can't try him.

Thue is offline Thue
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More here:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiap...iban/index.html

Lefty Scaevola is offline Lefty Scaevola
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I expect the US government will want to have him for trial. It would be good PR to have a few token European descent types among the defendents who will be mostly of middle east ethnic types.

chegitz guevara is offline chegitz guevara
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What is it with Americans named Walker going off and getting involved in foreign civil wars?

Az is offline Az
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* looks at the bearded guy fuzzy pic , reads che's last comment*


say , isn't that Chuck Norris ?

The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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All I'm saying is that his status as a citizen prevents him from being sent to the military tribunal, since they can be used only with non-citizens. Anything else is fair game.

BTW, given that he joined six months ago (and three months before WTC), do you think he joined with the intention of fighting America?

Kyle is offline Kyle
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BTW, given that he joined six months ago (and three months before WTC), do you think he joined with the intention of fighting America?



Doesn't really matter. The assumption is, he, an American citizen, fought against US forces.

Goingonit is offline Goingonit
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Ahh. All this hearkens back to the days of British poets fighting in Greece.

Faeelin is offline Faeelin
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Oct 2001
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Tired of ads?

No, but he didn't give up and quit after 9/11. Deal with it.

The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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I believe the question has been asked before: how does one surrender to a B-52?

DinoDoc is offline DinoDoc
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I believe the question has been asked before: how does one surrender to a B-52?


One doesn't have to surrender to leave the country.

 
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