06-12-2001 06:13									#31
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Gibalater will be ours within a decade. And the 12th largest economy in the world (it is the 12th) can do something.

quote: Originally posted by Bob Dornan Hmm ok let's take a look at history, my roots are American conservatism, freedom, liberty, anti imperalism, self government. Yours , from Spain, are of Franco and Hitler and Mussolini, auhotirtiarianism, hatred, nazism.

That is the last ****ing straw. You ran my patience.

True American Conservativism is pro-government, isolationist policies... that was before 1929. The word switched meanings. My conservativism comes from somebody called Jose Aznar, the current Prime Minister.

You are not for freedom, liberty, or self-government. You are for Nazi skinheads who like to murder jews. You are a stinking fool with a big mouth.

	06-12-2001 06:16									#32
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* Bob, the SAS are the best in the world. Just ask your Defence Secretary.

I bet you would believe a woman that says you were the best she ever had.

	06-12-2001 06:16									#33
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Well in terms of special forces, even if the Russians are defunct as I kind of guessed they were, the Isrealis still have some badasses. Sayerat, (again the damn spelling might be off) have historically been among the best soldiers in the world, and were the ones who made the spectacular victory at Intebe, Uganda possible.

	06-12-2001 06:18									#34
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Being rough and mean doesn't necessarily make you a good set of Special Forces.

	06-12-2001 06:20									#35
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* Being rough and mean doesn't necessarily make you a good set of Special Forces.

With no brains no matter how mean and rough they are wouldn't make them good. Or even average.

	06-12-2001 06:20									#36
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lol@Sprayber

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Agreed Giancarlo.

(And there's a phrase you don't see very often!)

	06-12-2001 06:21									#38
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These adjectives are merely symbolic. I think all of us realize that special forces require as much brains as brawn. Calling one group the meanest or roughest is simply a form a bragging about who is the best.

	06-12-2001 06:24									#39
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Anyone can be the best trained, but unless they get used, they're not worth a damn.

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giancarlo, you accuse me of being anti Jewish??? You support terror scum like the Egyptians, such great cultured friendly people?? What a hypocrite.

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quote: Originally posted by Bob Dornan giancarlo, you accuse me of being anti Jewish??? You support terror scum like the Egyptians, such great cultured friendly people?? What a hypocrite.

After learning about what those fundamentalist scum did to Sadat, I wanted to support the next leader, Mubarak. Sadat was assassinated by fundamentalists for helping Israel.

You are not only anti-jewish, you are anti-muslim.

	06-12-2001 07:12									#42
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 The EU should bomb Israel untill such criminals are out of power and put an end to palestinian slavery.

Can we have the Luftwaffe carry out the bombing campaign, just for historys sake?

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@ paiktis for starting this with a post inspired by

a)drunkenness
b)insanity
c)inability to distinguish fantasy from reality
or
d)a good sense of humour

	06-12-2001 07:19									#44
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Can we have the Luftwaffe carry out the bombing campaign, just for historys sake?

Luftwaffe just means 'airforce' they have little or nothing to do with the nazi party policies, they were just brave men fighting for their homes and families against other brave men fighting for their homes and families. So make refferences to the SS being used, but saying the Luftwaffe should be used is like saying the US Air Force should be used. They've commited greater acts of largely unecessary genocide than any other air force in history.

But anyway....

	06-12-2001 07:27									#45
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quote: They've commited greater acts of largely unecessary genocide than any other air force in history.

When you throw a word like that around, twice even, you should at least use it in the correct context.

	06-12-2001 07:31									#46
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Congratulations you've caught my attention.

Explain.

	06-12-2001 07:49									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Faboba Luftwaffe just means 'airforce' they have little or nothing to do with the nazi party policies,

Explain to me how any of the armed services can have "little or nothing" to do with the policies of thier government.

	06-12-2001 07:51									#48
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Have we bombed Israel yet?

	06-12-2001 07:52									#49
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 In the last 4 months around 124 palestinian kids were killed in contrast with just 20 israeli.

So we decide who's right by who got their kids killed more efficiently?

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Explain to me how any of the armed services can have "little or nothing" to do with the policies of thier government.

You are given a simple choice. Join up and fight in the skies for your home land ruled as it is by madmen and try and ignore what is happening back home as best you can, or refuse to fight and be shot or sent to a concentration camp along with all those you love.

Which in all honesty would you chose? Morals are nice, but when push comes to shove there are very few who fight the good fight at the expense of their lives and their families.

	06-12-2001 08:00									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Faboba Congratulations you've caught my attention. Explain.

You know, genocide, the systematic attempt to wipe out an entire people. To say that in regards to the US Air Force is false.

	06-12-2001 08:01									#52
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To get things straight:

israeli pilots couldn't shoot a dead cow. It's one thing killing unarmed children and quite another taking on an EU army of 386 million.

If USA steps in, she's dust.

SAS or whatever the brit mama's boys are called are only good for collectively kissing bush's ass. Their alleged efficiency is western propaganda.


the british spys will be decapitated and their heads hang on long sticks near military facilities as a persuasive deterent.


anything else?

	06-12-2001 08:03									#53
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Meh, nevermind.

	06-12-2001 08:15									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Infatuation Nah, we'd just send in some elite SAS troops to assassinate Sharon.

No need for such expense, just send him some phen-fen wieght loss pills.

	06-12-2001 08:21									#55
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse @ paiktis for starting this with a post inspired by a)drunkenness b)insanity c)inability to distinguish fantasy from reality or d)a good sense of humour

a) justice
b) humanity
c) truth
d) courage

Io sonno l' huomo morale.

	06-12-2001 08:24									#56
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 To get things straight: israeli pilots couldn't shoot a dead cow. It's one thing killing unarmed children and quite another taking on an EU army of 386 million.

The image of Christian soldiers marching from Europe to the Holy Land is not one which evokes great joy in the hearts of the middle easterner. So how about this compromise: You re-enact the fourth crusade and just settle for sacking Constantinople?

quote: If USA steps in, she's dust.

No, you are!

quote: SAS or whatever the brit mama's boys are called are only good for collectively kissing bush's ass. Their alleged efficiency is western propaganda.

Da. V Piryod, mayi tovarechi! Za Rodinu!

quote: the british spys will be decapitated and their heads hang on long sticks near military facilities as a persuasive deterent.

Interesting thought. The international Zionist conspiracy will have to consider it.

quote: anything else?

Yes, I'm sorry, but we can't stop the room so you can get off.

	06-12-2001 08:25									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola No need for such expense, just send him some phen-fen wieght loss pills.

You should send Arafat something for his lip-twitch while you're at it.

	06-12-2001 08:27									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Natan Da. V Piryod, mayi tovarechi! Za Rodinu!

THAT was uncalled for!

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And president Arafat is a charismatic leader, a hero trying to save small children from the clutches of a fascist state.

He will live in history as one of the great ones.

	06-12-2001 08:31									#60
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Faboba: Would you mind answering the relatively simple question I asked? Irrelevent and sugary sweet examples don't count as answers to the question I asked about the armed services (You'll notice I made no distinctions for the individual soldier. So long as he does as he's told, his motivations aren't relevent.).