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November Adam is offline November Adam
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Jul 2001
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Doesn't have legs? What could be more contoversial then a family not letting there child have a surgery that "society" deems necessary?

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Happens all the time in the US, and in life-threatening cases too.

Everybody ignored my "faith-healing" tie-in.

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i've just stepped back and taken a look at this debate...

we have a faction championing the rights of the deaf to hear again

we have another faction championing the rights of the deaf to enjoy life

i don't exactly see the existence of any conflicts between these two

but oh well.

If a deaf person wants to hear and is prevented from doing so, I'd say it is unlikely that the person will enjoy life.

I doubt if this girl will ever forgive her parents.

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Possibly, but then at the same time it's quite possible she will understand where her parents are coming from. I think the problem is that "society" doesn't understand where her parents are coming from, they just say they are being selfish. The more I've looked into it the more their standing has merit. As by and large it sounds like a prelingualy deaf child has a better chance to enjoy life if her education is focused on enhancing the skills that she has rather than trying to fix the skill that she doesn't.

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Your turn to reply November Adam. Your side loses if you or someone else doesnt.


Back at ya.

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Back at ya.


Oh no, Ive given up trying to talk sense into you two(you and Dinodoc). Im just a spectator at this point. I was trying to encourage you and Ranskaldan to continue the point by point debate you had going.

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Caligstia, nothing of what you said made sense... you might have to fall back in and help liven up this debate again.

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This is all I have left to say: Being able to hear is ALWAYS better than not being able to and if you cant understand that then I cant help you.

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That's not whats at issue here though.

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mmmmm..... I'll compose a full rebuttal later on, though I must say, November Adam, that the article you posted somewhat upset the pro-hearing side's arguments.

I'll reply to it tomorrow.

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Looking forward to it.

 
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