21-01-2002 22:23									#1
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Hello all,

well I know I will get the response... This has been asked a million times, or why are you writing this you know they don't respond to anything here. but my god anything would be nice! It's like Firaxis doesn't exist anymore.

	21-01-2002 22:35									#2
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Imagine for a second Firaxis DO respond to the posts on this board, whoever is responsbale for the response, will have 100's of Questions instantly fired at him, and will be basically eaten alive.

The 'We needed to keep that simple so the game would sell more copies' response will hardly wash well with the hardcore fans of this game.

I do agree however, that they should have slightly better Public Relations.

	21-01-2002 22:37									#3
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My guess is Firaxis has only hired people to make the game, not to talk to people, and those who makes the game wont have any time to talk (or they need to use their spare time to do so)...

Well, that's my guess, but who knows

	21-01-2002 22:39									#4
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Can't confirm this for sure, but a friend of a friend said they saw someone from Firaxis at a Burger King in Memphis.

	21-01-2002 22:40									#5
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Can I quiery here, why Libitarian hasnt been banned from this board, he has seldom has a slightly useful, or even amusing comment to make.

	21-01-2002 22:45									#6
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No, Ruthy, obviously you cnan't.

	21-01-2002 22:46									#7
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I suspect that the reason is because certain people will not accept any response from Firaxis. No matter what they say it will be analyzed in a juvenile fashion and twisted in such a way that the response does not matter. This has happened repeatedly any without valid reason besides pettiness. I doubt you will see much on these boards besides official announcments.

	21-01-2002 22:49									#8
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Nonsense. I took the initiative toward making peace with Firaxis, giving them a way to come back into the fold while saving face. They summarily ignore any and all such olive branches.

	21-01-2002 22:52									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Bilas Hello all, well I know I will get the response... This has been asked a million times, or why are you writing this you know they don't respond to anything here. but my god anything would be nice! It's like Firaxis doesn't exist anymore.

They probably got tired of all the b!tching and insults at them and at their work. I don't blame them quite frankly.

	21-01-2002 22:54									#10
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What insults? What bitching? And why are the fanboys stirring all this back up again?

	21-01-2002 22:59									#11
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Nonsense. your so called "initiative toward making peace " was so filled with self-rightousness and venom as to be percieved as an attack by almost all thinking people on this board.

You analyze everything line by line taking and twisting words and phrases to make them the opposite of what they are.
It's due to people like you that they do not respond here as often as they once did. You should be ashamed.

If you don't like them game and want to raise hell with Firaxis, go ahead. Please don't expose any of us to the MYTH that you have tried to extend an olive branch.

	21-01-2002 23:15									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Libertarian What insults? What bitching? And why are the fanboys stirring all this back up again?

I'd find Dan's quote, but I can't be arsed.
Was that fanboy comment at me?

	21-01-2002 23:25									#13
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I have proof about that guy in Memphis. The last Enquirer even had pix of him right next to the alien.

Lib wasn't the only person flaming Firaxis. He was maybe the most literate, but he certainly wasn't the only one.

Salve

	21-01-2002 23:27									#14
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quote: Nonsense. your so called "initiative toward making peace " was so filled with self-rightousness and venom as to be percieved as an attack by almost all thinking people on this board.

For whom only you would presume to speak.

quote: You analyze everything line by line taking and twisting words and phrases to make them the opposite of what they are.

I take that to mean that you find my analysis fair and balanced.

quote: It's due to people like you that they do not respond here as often as they once did.

Gah. Make up your mind. Am I self-important, or am I as important as you say?

quote: You should be ashamed.

No, Firaxis should be ashamed. I should be answered.

quote: If you don't like them game and want to raise hell with Firaxis, go ahead.

As though I needed your permission.

quote: Please don't expose any of us to the MYTH that you have tried to extend an olive branch.

That "myth" is a matter of public record.

quote: Was that fanboy comment at me?

Ask Shaggy. He speaks for the thinking people.

	21-01-2002 23:28									#15
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notyoueither:

Good to see a man of reason visit the thread. Thank you.

	21-01-2002 23:49									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Libertarian Ask Shaggy. He speaks for the thinking people.

That's a "no", yeah?

Lib iz funy but hrad to undersand.

	21-01-2002 23:52									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Libertarian Can't confirm this for sure, but a friend of a friend said they saw someone from Firaxis at a Burger King in Memphis.

Actually... I heard they've all been holed up in an Oklahoma nuclear bunker, working day and night on Sid Meir's Golf...

	22-01-2002 00:08									#18
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Aaaah, the relentless sniping.....

I am surprised too (to move back to the thread topic) that Firaxis doesn't show up here more. And the inactivity of the website is troubling as well. Not that I have slowed down on playing Civ3 one iota....and I do expect another patch or two and an Xpack. But Firaxis, Dan or whoever was responding nicely and professionally for a while when the game first came out. They seemed to let the vitriolic *****ing go without any backlash, and addressed serious issues. I am surprised that hasn't continued. On the other hand, if they have nothing more to say.... ANYTHING else they post only invites the broken record to be restarted.

Maybe they made the right decision anyway. But I wish they'd stop by and simply say "We are making progress on the patch and the editor. Please stay tuned".

	22-01-2002 01:25									#19
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I've seen a few Firaxis members sneak in posts on a pretty regular basis, though they slip them in odd threads where they won't be noticed. They were decimated in pitched discussion, so they've had to retreat and turn to using guerrilla PR tactics.

	22-01-2002 02:24									#20
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Because they have nothing to say for sure, and won't give false info away ? If this is the reason, I consider them as intelligent, since they learned from their past experience...
Curiously enough, when ppl ask them politely questions they can answer, they do : exposing precisely what affects culture flipping is a good example, but Soren answered plenty of questions concerning the game mechanics.
But if you ask why Firaxis doesn't answer every post adressing to them here (contrary to Libertarian who always answers "they won't answer you" to a post adressed to them), it's because no one has posting in Poly as his full-time job : Morris is responsible for the QA, Magaha is student and Johnson is the main programer.
Others don't bother anymore (if they ever had) to come here.

If you want to see latest posts from Firaxis, do like me : press "search", then ask to "match partial name" Firaxis, and show results as posts". You'll see they have answered some things, sometimes off-topic, but sometimes informing about the game as it is presently, and not about how it will be.

	22-01-2002 04:29									#21
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Most of their posts were so useless they have been considered being sort of provocative rather, so, perhaps, they are doing better not posting at all...

	22-01-2002 04:38									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Bilas Hello all, well I know I will get the response... This has been asked a million times, or why are you writing this you know they don't respond to anything here. but my god anything would be nice! It's like Firaxis doesn't exist anymore.

Personally, I'm spending most of my 'Poly time in the Strat and Creation forums. There's a lot less noise.

Jeff

	22-01-2002 05:02									#23
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See what I mean?

	22-01-2002 05:19									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS Personally, I'm spending most of my 'Poly time in the Strat and Creation forums. There's a lot less noise. Jeff

I hear u 5/5.

	22-01-2002 05:20									#25
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quote: There's a lot less noise.

And by 'noise' we assume you mean complaints. And by complaints, we assume you don't want to hear them. And by not wanting to hear them, we assume you are doing a piss-poor job as the QA director.

Move along. Nothing to see here....

	22-01-2002 05:28									#26
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quote: Personally, I'm spending most of my 'Poly time in the Strat and Creation forums. There's a lot less noise.

That's nice, Jeff. While you are spending your "Poly time", guess what I'm doing? Not playing Civ III. Why not? Because patch 1.16f has a tech-trading bug that allows the AI to trade during your turn which makes playing with the patch pointless. And I'm not playing Civ III without the patch for the multitude of reasons a patch was necessary. While you browse the forums you mentioned are you enjoying some pizza and beer with the $50 I paid for Civ III? Good. Because while you're doing that guess what I'm doing? Not playing Civ III.

	22-01-2002 06:15									#27
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There's some of that damn noise again.

	22-01-2002 06:21									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Feephi That's nice, Jeff. While you are spending your "Poly time", guess what I'm doing? Not playing Civ III. Why not? Because patch 1.16f has a tech-trading bug that allows the AI to trade during your turn which makes playing with the patch pointless. And I'm not playing Civ III without the patch for the multitude of reasons a patch was necessary. While you browse the forums you mentioned are you enjoying some pizza and beer with the $50 I paid for Civ III? Good. Because while you're doing that guess what I'm doing? Not playing Civ III.

OOOOHHHHH!!!!! That will show them! Don't play the game you have already paid for.

Man, I wish I was a strong as you are.

	22-01-2002 06:28									#29
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quote: Originally posted by ****gyRA OOOOHHHHH!!!!! That will show them! Don't play the game you have already paid for. Man, I wish I was a strong as you are.

So what is he supposed to do? Raze Firaxis?

	22-01-2002 06:32									#30
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quote: Originally posted by ****gyRA OOOOHHHHH!!!!! That will show them! Don't play the game you have already paid for. Man, I wish I was a strong as you are.

Yea, I bet they are really impressed that you still play a game that sucks. Way to go!!