01-04-2002 05:28									#271
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The problem with indymedia is that any one can post any bullshit he wants to.

While this http://www.indymedia.org.il/imc/isr...cast/18712.html is obvious to be bullshit

what axi posted is not as obvious since it's plausible.


From everything I checked, nothing even close hapenned.

Furthermore, it's illogical since Israel would much rather take those 30 people and interrogate them, to get their hands on more terrorists.

(assuming they were terrorists)

If they are unrelated, then it's 100% they were not assassinated.

Esp. not with the mood in Israel now, after the "refusal letter" where they claim of illegal orders given.

	01-04-2002 05:29									#272
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(Gentlemen, have you noticed that we are all fighting in the propaganda corps in this "war"?)

I don't know what to say about indymedia israel, Eli. They have been fending off zionist hackers all weekend. I haven't seen anyone of them replying to the thread, so I don't know their viewpoint on this issue. They normally should have justified their policy not to hide the article. Anyway, such stuff are actually helping the Zionists and not the Palestinians.

I am afraid that Israel will have to sustain terrorist attacks for a couple of years, even if it backs away and provides full independence to Palestine. But you have no choice, anyway. You will either eliminate them or they will eleiminate you, the way you're going...

	01-04-2002 06:26									#273
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove I know that this is going to sound terribly lame, but I grieve for all of you guys over there. That is about all that I can contribute to this subject.

Thanks man

	01-04-2002 06:47									#274
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Israel is on EXTREMElY thin ice right. Everybody from Cuba, Eygpt to Russia have condemned Israel. After watching a specia on recent eventsl, Israeli's should be very lucky to have friends like America. Very Lucky......

Yemeni minister right after meeting with EU officials has called for a "Emergency arab summit to deal with Zionist Aggression"
Does anybody else feel like wwIII is around the corner?

	01-04-2002 07:09									#275
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quote: Originally posted by axi (Gentlemen, have you noticed that we are all fighting in the propaganda corps in this "war"?)

Well no duh

quote: I don't know what to say about indymedia israel, Eli. They have been fending off zionist hackers all weekend. I haven't seen anyone of them replying to the thread, so I don't know their viewpoint on this issue. They normally should have justified their policy not to hide the article. Anyway, such stuff are actually helping the Zionists and not the Palestinians.

Let's say I have little trust in them.
It's not the only thing I saw.
I also seen claims that we planned and comitted 9/11 and other such idiocies.

No one does any facts checking - any one can post what he wants.

And frankly, leftist extreme groups are not known for their credibility. Nor are palestinian propogandists, who I've seen call black white.

quote: I am afraid that Israel will have to sustain terrorist attacks for a couple of years, even if it backs away and provides full independence to Palestine. But you have no choice, anyway. You will either eliminate them or they will eleiminate you, the way you're going...

Look, we certainly don't intend to sustain terrorist attacks quietly.

We did that already in 1993 - 2000.

I've seen evidence which lead me to believe that the Hamas & Arafat enjoy a much more loving relationship than one would think. And even if not, Arafat definately enjoys not being able to stop Hamas since it only works for his goals (pressuring Israel into more) and after all - he is the one that freed them in fall of 2000 !!!

	01-04-2002 07:10									#276
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say

why don't you read this here info, and then tell me what you think

http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/myths/mftoc.html

I know it's an awfull lot, but it's basically most of the "zionist" lies concentrated in on place

	01-04-2002 10:53									#277
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov why don't you read this here info, and then tell me what you think http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/myths/mftoc.html

It's not completely accurate, Siro.

	01-04-2002 11:48									#278
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DinoDoc what part are you refering to?
Lot's of information there can you be exact?

	01-04-2002 11:58									#279
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quote: Originally posted by blackice DinoDoc what part are you refering to? Lot's of information there can you be exact?

Just skimming it so far. The “The Jews have no claim to the land they call Israel.” section is for the most part irrelevent to the Jewish claim on Isreal. The “The Zionists made no effort to compromise with the Arabs.” fails to mention to very important overtures the Arabs made to the Zionists. You'll get more when I get through it all.

	01-04-2002 12:29									#280
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DinoDoc, that refers only to the period prior to 1948, and except the Faysal Weizman document, which was quite worthless, I never heard of anything.

And the site does refer to the Faysal Wezman document, though it's placement is only under it's own category I think.

	01-04-2002 15:33									#281
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quote: Originally posted by axi I don't know what to say about indymedia israel, Eli. They have been fending off zionist hackers all weekend.

For for posting pictures of Sharon with Nazi uniform and hands filled with blood? The same pictures that caused the murder or Rabin, but then it was considered incitement because it was done by fanatical settlers, now since it's done be enlighted lefties it is "freedom of speech".

	01-04-2002 15:41									#282
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11 Palestinians were murdered by other Palestinians claiming they were cooperating with Israel. Are you going to blame Israel again for not stopping Arabs from killing Arabs like in Sabra&Shatilla?

	01-04-2002 16:10									#283
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Omri Sharon(the son of) was among the reservists recruited. The guy is a commander in a combatant unit, but weights at least as much as his father. And they said they're recruiting the best miluimniks(reservniks).

	02-04-2002 00:27									#284
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov say why don't you read this here info, and then tell me what you think http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/myths/mftoc.html I know it's an awfull lot, but it's basically most of the "zionist" lies concentrated in on place

I like this site. It can save me alot of typing.

So if I just cut & paste my arguements during ME thread......