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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
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http://www.idf.il/newsite/english/main.asp
Dozens of files with all sources in source language and translated.
Two examples:
Captured documents and the interrogation of Operation "Defensive Shield" detainees demonstrate unequivocally the involvement of the PA General Intelligence in direct and indirect assistance to terrorist activities
The captured documents and detainees' interrogation prove beyond any doubt that the PA General Intelligence and other security apparatuses under Arafat's direct command, who, according to the agreements between Israel and the Palestinians were supposed to prevent terrorism from PA areas, instead turned into a central element in masterminding and encouraging terror and in assisting terrorist squads to perpetrate terrorist atrocities in Israel.
1. On 27 January 2002 a female suicide terrorist ,Wafaa Idris perpetrated a murderous terrorist attack in Jaffa Street ,Jerusalem. The terrorist attack was unusual in that it was the first suicide attack carried out by a Palestinian woman, and was a precedent for additional suicide attacks by Palestinian women. In the attack one Israeli civilian was killed and 131 injured.
2. A captured document of the PA Preventive Security Apparatus in Ramallah notes that the PA General Intelligence was involved in the attack. According to the document, the head of General Intelligence in the West Bank, Colonel Toufiq Tirawi, attempted, immediately after the attack to cover up the fact that Wafaa Idris (who was identified with the Fatah) carried out the attack. This apparently in order to conceal the fact that Fatah and the "Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades" were involved in a terrorist attack in the heart of Jerusalem.
3 .To this end Tirawi offered a "deal" to Wafaa's brother, who is wanted for attacks he carried out himself,whereby Tirawi would whisk him out to Jordan and in return the Idris family would refrain from declaring that Wafaa carried out the attack. However, the brother refused and said that he was not prepared to "sell" his sister's blood like that. Three days after the attack took place (30 January), only after the cover-up attempt failed, did the "Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades" claim responsibility for the attack.
4 .Wanted terrorist activists who were detained in Operation Defensive Wall, reported in their interrogation of the direct involvement of Tirawi and his men in recruiting terrorists, their preparation, and the supply of ammunition for their operations. In addition, in the possession of a General Intelligence official, Muhamed Araj, a Kalandia refugee camp resident, were found (16 April 2002) two explosive belts (one ready for use) and 2 suicide letters.
Beit Jala School Premises Converted into a Center of Terrorist Activities Against Israel
The head of the German Liaison Office to the Palestinian Authority protested againstthe turning of a Beit Jala School into a base for terror activities against Israel among civilian concentrations.
A captured document indicates that the head of the German Liaison office to the PA addressed a letter to Jibril Rajoub regarding the activities of armed Palestinians on the premises of "Talitakoumi" school in Beit Jala (the school is financed by the Protestant Church in Berlin). The letter was addressed on the background of apprehension that this could lead to an Israeli military reaction Jibril was therefore requested to assist in removing the gunmen from the school premises. It is of note that this school is situated on the Beit Jala ridge from where firing at Israeli vehicles on the Bethlehem bypass "tunnel road" was carried out. Turning the school, which is attended by some 1,000 students according to the captured document, into a terrorist activity center, once again demonstrates that the terror organizations are cynically exploiting the civilian population.
1. A document captured during Operation Defensive Shield unveils the use made by terrorist organizations of the premises of a school situated on the Beit Jala ridge, which is attended by some 1,000 students. The school serves the terror organizations as a base for firing at vehicles on the "tunnel road", the main highway connecting Hebron and Jerusalem (the original document and its translation are attached).
2 .Andreas Reinecke, the head of the German Liaison Office to the PA, addressed a letter on the subject to Jibril Rajoub, the head of the PA Preventive Security Apparatus, on March 5, 2002. Reinecke complained that armed Palestinian activists intend to act from the premises of "Talitakoumi" school .Reinecke added that if they succeed in doing so, this might provoke Israeli retaliatory reaction, which will have a negative influence on the continuation of the operation of the school. He notes that if the people in Germany will find out that the school is being used as a battle ground, this will stir trouble, as many Germans provide financial aid to the school, which enables it to exist .At the end of the letter, Jibril Rajoub is requested to ensure the security of the school for the benefit of the local Palestinians.
3 .Following are some comments regarding the above:
a. "Talitakoumi" school is situated on the Beit Jala ridge overlooking the "tunnel road" highway connecting Hebron and Jerusalem via Gush Etzion. This is a main transportation route for Israeli vehicles.
b. The "tunnel road" bypassing Bethlehem was built at considerable expense during the IDF's redeployment after the Oslo Accords. This was done in order to avert any extra friction between Israel and the Palestinian population by diverting the transportation route west of Bethlehem.
c. The "tunnel road" was attacked on scores of occasions from Beit Jala ridge, inflicting many casualties on Israel. Gunshots were fired at Israeli vehicles driving on the "tunnel road" from the "Talitakoumi" school area.
d .The terror activities conducted from an area as sensitive as a school with some 1,000 students, once again illustrate the cynical use which the terrorist organizations are making of the civilian population, amongst whom they find refuge and act from within their concentrations. It is noteworthy that the civilian population in the Beit Jala area, whose houses were turned into terror bases, has time and again expressed its dismay at being included in the fighting cycle, against its wishes. These protests even developed into local violent clashes in the past.
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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
time: 07:19
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More News
Disorder in the PA
Attacks between rivaling factions. Politicians: Reforms are necessary. Arafat's popularity ground low
The war between possible heirs has already begun. For the last weeks, several Palestinian politicians from rival camps were attacked phisically, and several assassination attempts were foiled.
There are two rival groups - one lead by Abu Ala - now farther from Arafat and in ties with Jibril Rajoub and Fatah-Tanzim (Barghoutti whom we captured).
The other group is lead by Abu Mazen. It is closer to Arafat and has some of his closest men - Muhamad Dahlan, Atfur, and Rashid - his closest secretary and in charge of his funds.
Most of the attacks so far targetted Abu Mazen's group and was comitted by masked men feared to be of Fatah-Tanzim.
Several Palestinain politicians resigned, saying that the current way in which the Authority is run is bad, and this falling appart in times of lacking stability is a sign of bad health. They said that reforms are crucial.
In a recent poll conducted by Arafat's chambers, his popularity has reached a low of 20%. This is extremely low compared to 80% a month and a half ago. Some are wondering whether the 20% were all sincere.
Egypt steps up pressure
Egyptian officials put a great deal of pressure, both on Arafat, other politicians and actual commanders on the street, to stop terrorism against Israel.
Egypt hopes to advance the peace intiative and fears that Arafat will see Israel's withdrawal as an opportunity to step up terrorism.
Egypt's top officials and top military and intelligence officials have been meeting with their counterparts in the West Bank.
Israeli brigadeer General acquited on charge of spying
A retired brigadeer General was acquited today of the charge of spying, but found guilty in giving away state secrets.
The court established that the person in question had no malicious intentions and disclosed things out of the belief it wouldn't do any harm.
The brigadeer general gave several interviews and wrote two books, describing his role as general of arms developement and technology in the IDF, where he disclosed details about IDF's projects including things relating to the nuclear program.
Ben Eliezer revokes all emergency draft orders
Minister of Defense Ben Eliezer revoked all the emergency draft orders.
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Faeelin
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Tau Ceti
Oct 2001
time: 05:19
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Okay.
So just to make things clear, what WOULD convince you that the PA is involved in terrorism?
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- Groucho -
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Siro, maybe if the IDF actually had evidence that backed up their allegations people would be more sympathetic. As it is, you've got an IDF claim of "proof beyond doubt" of the PA "masterminding" terror with absolutely no proof of any PA involvement in the planning of a terrorist act. The evidence that they do have does not look good for the PA but the IDF has trumpeted it as being far more damaging than it is. The stuff you've put up in this thread looks more like a teenager's idea of spin doctoring than any kind of persuasive case.
Let's examine what the IDF has got:
The first set of "evidence" shows that a Pal. General attempted to stop the family of a suicide bomber from saying she was associated with Al Aksa.
How is that proof of the Palestinian Authorities involvement in the actual act itself? There is no evidence that they supplied her with the bomb, helped her get into Israeli territory or trained her in any way. All it shows is that their spin doctors wanted to manage the terrorists communications AFTER THE FACT. Which they failed miserably at, by the way.
The second set of "evidence" is even more flimsy. What the IDF shows us is a letter complaining that armed pals were using a school to shoot at Israeli drivers and an official at the school complained to the PA. That's it. Were those armed gunmen sent to the school by the PA? No evidence. Did the PA supply, train or otherwise overtly assist those gunmen? No evidence. Hell, there isn't even any evidence as to whether the PA tried to remove those gunmen (I assume they didn't try, but my point is the IDF didn't show any evidence one way or the other).
None of this is "proof beyond doubt" of "masterminding" anything. Making claims that it is, just makes the IDF look like they think the rest of the world are a bunch of morons. Which kinda pisses off the rest of the world, naturally.
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