22-05-2002 22:23									#1
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Nope, no shocking revelations from me

I just noticed that on American TV programmes bisexuality is never mentioned - even when there are bi characters, they seem to be reffered to as gay (look at Willow in Buffy, she is obviously bi and she can freely choose between Oz and Tara, yet she is always called gay).

Am I wrong? Or does bisexuality not feature on US TV?

	22-05-2002 22:27									#2
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Maybe it's considered even more perverted than being gay.

	22-05-2002 22:32									#3
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yeah, the bisexual bastards have twice the opportunity to score than we do

	22-05-2002 22:32									#4
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It's apparently in vogue here in the UK, but not in America, it would seem.

	22-05-2002 22:33									#5
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what is that thing in your avatar icon, the one before the mars icon? what is that? a man? ah, a man with a spear short before throwing it? what is it?

	22-05-2002 22:33									#6
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I think it would be kinda cool to be bi. It does seem fashionable here too...

	22-05-2002 22:34									#7
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Are you not? Are you 100% not? Never fancied the look of a gal?

	22-05-2002 22:37									#8
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Nope, never had a singe sexual feeling for a girl. As I've said I am bi when drunk, but that's only because I can't say 'no' to anything

I'm comfortable with being 100% gay, but if I fancied a gal in the future, I wouldn't really mind.

	22-05-2002 22:39									#9
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quote: look at Willow in Buffy, she is obviously bi and she can freely choose between Oz and Tara, yet she is always called gay

funny. I was just thinking about that earlier today.

	22-05-2002 22:41									#10
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red_jon, does that mean you've done it with a girl before, when drunk?

	22-05-2002 22:44									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion red_jon, does that mean you've done it with a girl before, when drunk?

No, just gotten snogging and dirty dancing. I've never done it with anyone - I've had the opportunity to have sex with some guys, but I limited it to other stuff - I'd want it in a stable relationship.

	22-05-2002 22:45									#12
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ew.... a gay virgin at that age, that'd be a first

	22-05-2002 22:46									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion what is that thing in your avatar icon, the one before the mars icon? what is that? a man? ah, a man with a spear short before throwing it? what is it?

Yes, a man, Mars infact, the Roman God of war, and yes, that's a spear he's holding, and yes, he's about to throw it

	22-05-2002 22:47									#14
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at me?

	22-05-2002 22:48									#15
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yes. he has incredible aim

	22-05-2002 22:48									#16
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Well, she doesn't seem to be choosing Oz at all for the past couple of years. Many gay teens date someone of the opposite sex until coming to terms with who they are. Willow doesn't seem the bit interested in boys anymore.

Bisexuality is very popular for women in the states, though not so much for men.

	22-05-2002 22:51									#17
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Well, she doesn't seem to be choosing Oz at all for the past couple of years. Many gay teens date someone of the opposite sex until coming to terms with who they are. Willow doesn't seem the bit interested in boys anymore.

Well there was the episode in series 4 where she has to choose - and has some difficulty, suggesting she likes them both.

	22-05-2002 22:53									#18
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That's because she loved Oz, and her relationship with Tara was still new. It wasn't so much she had a hard time chosing as a hard time telling Oz he was no longer in the picture. Anyway, she's since called herself gay, not bi.

	22-05-2002 22:54									#19
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If they go both ways "for a couple of years" they're still bisexual during that period. Don't give me that cod-psychologist crap about how Bisexuals are "gays in denial", please.

	22-05-2002 23:01									#20
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I'm 100% gay, but I have had sex with a woman. And I may very well have it again in the future, who knows?

Being gay isn't just about sex ya know. It's about emotional attraction as well. In that regard, I am certainly 100% gay because I only have an interest in pursuing a long-term relationship with other men. I feel most comfortable with other men in a romantic/intimate sense. While I didn't dislike ****ging the chick, I didn't get nearly as much out of it as I have from my same-sex encounters.

This shows the problem with labels of sexuality and the European penchant for categorizing and boxing everything neatly. There's nothing neat about sex.

	22-05-2002 23:05									#21
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Willow also had a HUGE crush on Xander.

Hmmm, I guess she must be gay then.

	22-05-2002 23:27									#22
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quote: Originally posted by orange yeah, the bisexual bastards have twice the opportunity to score than we do

More like 10% more opportunity

	22-05-2002 23:29									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus Willow also had a HUGE crush on Xander.

The operative word being had.

	22-05-2002 23:32									#24
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon As I've said I am bi when drunk, but that's only because I can't say 'no' to anything

I told you. You're a slut.

	22-05-2002 23:55									#25
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quote: The operative word being had.

so from one day to the next, she stopped feeling about Xander, Oz and all other guys completely and turned 100% gay?

	23-05-2002 00:04									#26
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Bisexuality is too complex for the American public.

	23-05-2002 00:33									#27
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Bisexuality is not a "fad" or a "fling" or something "vogue."

It's an identity that does not deserve to be trivialized with such words.

I'm 100% gay. But we're probably all fundamentally bisexual with either heterosexuality or homosexuality being dominant in us.

	23-05-2002 01:27									#28
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Thats what a gay friend of me says. He believes there isnt a clear diffrence gay vs straight. More something like a slider and everyone is on this scale somewhere betwenn 0% - 100% gay. He considers himself to be at 85%. Has sex with guys all the time, but has also sex with girls once in a while.
Interesting theorie, although if true I have to be really close to 0 though.

	23-05-2002 01:30									#29
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I am not bisexual, but in fact trisexual...

...I try but don't get any

	23-05-2002 01:30									#30
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If what I explained proves to be true, I would have to say that I am 90% gay.

I would never want to have sex with a woman. Cindy Crawford, Britney Speers, Pamela Anderson, and the other hot women just do NOTHING for me.

Yet, somewhere, I could be 10% hetero.