05-06-2002 00:45									#31
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quote: 6aHaH

6Hahhah, spämmihahhah!

quote: I still have a few relatives there, and according to them the situation really sucks. Lots of drugs, early pregnancies, alcoholism(more than ever, and they always had lots of it), poverty, crime etc. And all this happens on major scale with huge chunks of the population, not a few percents

There's one positive aspect in this matter, thought...
You can have cheap pirate games from St. Petersburgh!

	05-06-2002 00:49									#32
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Pirate games? PIRATE GAMES?

Just because cd has a green shiny side, all the texts are in Russian and installer plays techno it doesn't mean the CD can't be perfectly legal!

	05-06-2002 00:49									#33
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quote: As for the SU being the best fighter....damn shame dogfighting is obsolute

No it isn't! Never seen Air Force One? ( )

	05-06-2002 00:51									#34
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quote: Just because cd has a green shiny side, all the texts are in Russian and installer plays techno it doesn't mean the CD can't be perfectly legal!

Techno music during installing? Really? Holy sh!t... This have to stop.

	05-06-2002 00:55									#35
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yep, we've got lots of "communist" software here as well. Heck, guess where I got the OS I am typing this on?

	05-06-2002 00:55									#36
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Well, it's sort of... I like to call it "Cave Flying Techno", after the musics in that great Finnish work of gamesmanship, Wings. Wings is the main reason I can't associate techno with anything other than computer games nowadays.

	05-06-2002 00:57									#37
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Wings ?

is it like "descent" ?

	05-06-2002 02:38									#38
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Reasonable people choose the following options and nothing more than the following options:

Russia will be great power, as it is now.
Russia will be wealthier than now.
Russia will have about the same areas than now.
Russia will be democratic capitalist state, similar to US.


áàíàí

Good point.

	05-06-2002 02:41									#39
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Oh, my God... Dalgetti, what happened to your avatar?

We need the good old red banner back!

	05-06-2002 02:46									#40
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"Russia will be democratic capitalist state, similar to US."

Capitalist? Has the mood/reality changed that drastically? Would the laws allow something like this?

	05-06-2002 02:47									#41
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Apparently, someone hacked his account. It would have been more amusing had they replaced Dal's avatar with a nice, waving American flag and made Eli's avatar the Arafat picture.

	05-06-2002 02:49									#42
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Here is my choice:

Russia will no longer be a great power - it'll just be moderately powerful, like Britain now. (I assume Great Power means superpower)
Russia will be wealthier than now.
Russia will have about the same areas than now.
Russia will be democratic capitalist state, similar to US.

By 20 years, it'll come back to Great Power status, I think. When oil and minerals can be more easily extracted from Siberia.

	05-06-2002 02:50									#43
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The Vagabond: I´ve noticed that myself. I´m not sure it´s better than the old one And on-topic I´d like to second Zkribblers predictions, but who knows? Mother Russia has surprised us before...

	05-06-2002 02:57									#44
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Russia does not hold global influence nor can it send troops to as many parts of the world.

Russia simply doesn't need to send troops to any part of the world that is not already adjacent to Russia.

It's only countries sea-locked on their small islands that need to throw troops around the world in order to overcome their inferiority complex.

quote: Britain is more powerful than the crime-ridden corrupt state that is modern Russia.

As if a crime-ridden corrupt state couldn't be more powerful than Britain...

Not that Russia is one.

	05-06-2002 03:00									#45
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Britain, right now, is more powerful than Russia. However, that won't last. When Russia gets going on the right path (it is still in the middle of capitalist growing pains), it will be more powerful than any state other than the US and China (the EU won't be a state by then ).

	05-06-2002 03:08									#46
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oh my new avatar? I thought you guys would like it .

	05-06-2002 03:08									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui (I assume Great Power means superpower)

I thought Great Power was less than Superpower status.

	05-06-2002 03:13									#48
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Well it depends on the context.

Since Great Britain was listed as not a Great Power, I took it to mean 'Great Power' in this context to be superpower.

	05-06-2002 03:16									#49
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yes. I agree with Imran. If Britain is a moderate power , and the US is a super power ,what is a Great power?

	05-06-2002 03:17									#50
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Nah, Great Britain is not a great power, as I understand it. China, Russia, and a unified Europe, etc. are the prospective great powers. Maybe India down the road.

	05-06-2002 03:17									#51
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I had just assumed that the stupid Finn didn't know the meaning of the word.

	05-06-2002 03:21									#52
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hrrm. A strong Russia , and a strong EU are prospective superpowers, if you ask me, not to mention china.

	05-06-2002 03:22									#53
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DanS got it. Currently, US is a superpower and China and Russia are great powers. Europe, unified, would also be a great power.

And Imran, why did you take great power to mean superpower, when I already had superpower as a separate category?

Reasonable people will obviously check Vagabond's options, since I also checked them.

	05-06-2002 03:23									#54
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quote: Originally posted by DanS "Russia will be democratic capitalist state, similar to US." Capitalist? Has the mood/reality changed that drastically?

Yes, it has changed. Russia is pretty capitalistic now. Everything can be sold and bought.

quote: Would the laws allow something like this?

You seem surprised... The laws in Russia are no longer Soviet. Well, there still remains a lot of lawmaking to be done, which is what the Duma is supposedly doing in its free time.

	05-06-2002 03:25									#55
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"A strong Russia , and a strong EU are prospective superpowers, if you ask me, not to mention china."

China and the EU will never be superpowers because of the limited geographical scope of their foreign policies. Russia cannot afford it and never will be able to afford it again. Just not enough people.

	05-06-2002 03:25									#56
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quote: Originally posted by The Vagabond Yes, it has changed. Russia is pretty capitalistic now. Everything can be sold and bought.

That would explain those missing nukes we heard about sometime ago.

	05-06-2002 03:28									#57
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"The laws in Russia are no longer Soviet."

I don't mean that way. Rather, do the corporate laws allow orderly bankruptcies? Are land deeds now recognized by the law? Is there something like a Uniform Commercial Code? That sort of thing.

	05-06-2002 03:28									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Britain, right now, is more powerful than Russia.

Well, let's agree that both Britain and Russia currently have their own unique strengths, which nicely complement each other.

	05-06-2002 03:36									#59
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc That would explain those missing nukes we heard about sometime ago.

Don't take it so literally. There are things that money can't buy, such as happiness, love, nukes, etc. For anything else, welcome to Russia.

	05-06-2002 03:40									#60
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quote: Originally posted by DanS China and the EU will never be superpowers because of the limited geographical scope of their foreign policies. Russia cannot afford it and never will be able to afford it again. Just not enough people.

That's true. Not enough people. But why would Russia need to be a superpower again? It's such a burden. Just look at the US. They have to care about everything in the world.

What Russia needs is just to be a good Great Power.