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This time scientists have beaten my predictions. I thought that first kind of any teleportation will be at about 2012-2015, but it has been made now, teleporting a laser beem in Australia.

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CANBERRA (Reuters) - In a world breakthrough out of the realms of Star Trek, scientists in Australia have successfully teleported a laser beam of light from one spot to another in a split second but warn -- don't sell the car yet.


A team of physicists at the Australian National University (ANU) announced on Monday they had successfully disembodied a laser beam in one location and rebuilt it in a different spot about one metre away in the blink of an eye.

Project leader Dr Ping Koy Lam said there was a close resemblance between what his team had achieved and the movement of people in the science fiction series Star Trek but reality was still light years off beaming human beings between locations.

"In theory there is nothing stopping us from doing it but the complexity of the problem is so huge that no one is thinking seriously about it at the moment," Lam told a news conference.

However Lam said science was not too far from being able to teleport solid matter from one location to another.

"My prediction is...it will probably be done by someone in the next three to five years, that is the teleportation of a single atom," said Lam, who has worked on teleporting since 1997.

But he said humans posed a near-impossible task as we are made up of zillions of atoms -- quantified by a one with 27 zeroes -- so forget Star Trek where the Starship Enterprise crew step into a transporter, vaporise, then re-assemble elsewhere.

The laser beam was destroyed during teleporting which is achieved using a process known as quantum entanglement.

However the breakthrough opens up enormous possibilities for future super-fast and super-secure communications systems, such as quantum computers over the next decade.

WORLD RACE

Physicists believe quantum computers could outperform classical computers with enormous memory and the ability to solve problems millions of times faster.

Teleportation became one of the hottest topics among physicists in quantum mechanics in the past decade, after the IBM lab in the United States provided theoretical underpinning for the work in 1993. Since then about 40 laboratories globally have been experimenting in this area.

Although teams in California and Denmark were the first to do preliminary work on teleportation, the ANU team of scientists from Australia, Germany, France, China and New Zealand was the first to achieve a successful trial with 100 percent reliability.

The idea is if quantum particles like electrons, ions, and atoms have the same properties, they are essentially the same.

So if the properties of quantum particles making up an object are reproduced in another particle group, there would be a precise duplication of the object, so only information about the particles' properties need be transmitted, not the particles.

The inability to pass the information reliably has been a major stumbling block in past "entanglement" experiments.

ANU team member Warwick Bowen said they first successfully teleported a laser beam on May 23 to their great surprise, and repeated the success time after time in following weeks using their small-car-sized transporter, ironing out certain glitches.

"Even in Star Trek they realise there are problems with teleportation," Bowen told the news conference.

"It is such a complicated experiment that nobody knows whether their particular set-up is going to work until you do it....and it turns out our system is very good."

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I knew Canada was the first country to invent beaming

BTW, beaming a big bunch of quantums is one thing... beaming something that is made of matter is something completely different. That's because quantum informaiton can be transferred via Pauli stuff while Eli's spammy atoms are a little more complex than photons.

Just my Pf 4.

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Even if some kind of a solid matter transporter was made, there's no way in hell I'm stepping in that. As far as I'm concerned, it would kill me and create my exact duplicate at the other end.

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yeah, and it would even have to create the exact opposite of you in between

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That's exactly what they say, transporting solid matter isn't yet at it, they expect it in 5 years.

It's a problem with humans. If Stefu steps in, he'll be killed and recreated, but the problem is saving his memory and awareness.

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Even if some kind of a solid matter transporter was made, there's no way in hell I'm stepping in that. As far as I'm concerned, it would kill me and create my exact duplicate at the other end.


Paradox of Theseus' ship. You are not you anyway.

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It's paradoxal thus far. When they learn to transport matter, they'll move on to transporting aware beings.

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Solver, if he is recreated, then his brain is recreated as well. and anyone who can recreate a laser can also recreate all the energy fields in the brain and thus also memory and awareness

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That's the question. They can easily recreate brain structure, but if they can recreate the electro-magnetic field?

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Wow, the first human clone, first cyborg and now the first teleportation.

We sure proved those 60s sci-fi writers, erm, right

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Sometimes humans amaze me. We dream up crazy ideas, and then will work, and work until we make them a reality.

Simply fascinating.

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I thought the first cyborg was actually before the clone . And, the first clone isn't there yet, either.

Go sci-fi !

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the problem is saving his memory and awareness.


The problem is me being killed!

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We don't work to make them reality. Sci-fi is just predicting future sciens.

J. Verne imagined submarines, airplanes and such stuff, now the world is full with them.

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Solver.... EM field can be described as quantum stuff, so what's the problem with that?

Does a laser consist of matter?

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The problem is me being killed!


Well if you put it THAT way!

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Stefu, you don't get killed. You get disassembled. Though really, what's the solution? They obviously can't create a copy, they need to move the existing Stefu.

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No, laser isn't matter, exactly that. I understand Ech, but who knows, we haven't yet discovered the secrets of why are we aware and thinking.

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Even if some kind of a solid matter transporter was made, there's no way in hell I'm stepping in that. As far as I'm concerned, it would kill me and create my exact duplicate at the other end.


Hello, Dr. McCoy.

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It's paradoxal thus far. When they learn to transport matter, they'll move on to transporting aware beings.


If you replace every part of an original body, are you still the same body. How can that paradox be resolved? Its subjective.

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yes, but even EM fields can be transported when a Laser can (it's not that far a step anyway), so it wouldn't even be a problem.

BTW, we can also test the thing with mice before using it on Stefu. And we can always use it on Stefu and Eli before using it on human beings.

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But, at a small moment, there will be no Stefu - he's disassembled, and in a few nanoseconds, assembled again. I wouldn't like to travel with being killed 10 times a day.

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We don't work to make them reality. Sci-fi is just predicting future sciens.

J. Verne imagined submarines, airplanes and such stuff, now the world is full with them.


But how many scientists are sci-fi fans?

I think science fiction is a primary mover in our scientific endevours, or maybe a guide.

Maybe this wasn't the case in the past, but now that the next generation of scienists have been influnenced by sci-fi, I believe it is the case.

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BTW, we can also test the thing with mice before using it on Stefu. And we can always use it on Stefu and Eli before using it on human beings.


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Stefu, you don't get killed. You get disassembled.


Which sounds positively non-lethal!

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Does anyone have a link for this?

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As I say, sci-fi is actually predicting future discoveries.

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The problem is me being killed!


Bingo! and noone will know the difference.

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Redjon, my first post has newsitem.

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I knew this thread was going to get boring at some point.

 
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