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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999 time: 23:19
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for chrissake, the one thing everybody who watches football should know is that ref calls are like smac's random events! they often suck, resulting in a decision against you(r favorite team), often taking you out of the lead for a brief while.
now, the hallmark of any good smac player is that he can overcome that (god**** ****ing) random event.
a good football team should also overcome that (god**** ****ing) bad call.
so even though one of those goals was eliminated on a questionable call (the linesman's call), s***e like that happens in a sports game. they key is not to blame the winners, not to curse out the refs, but to take it in stride, train harder, and come back the next game with enough skill to handily defeat the winning team.
(or, just throw the computer out the window.)
look-- i'm happy that korea won. i also think it's a pity that spain lost. because from what i saw, spain did get 1 goal in (i thought). but sometimes calls are made, and that's how the cookie crumbles.
as for the italy game, i'm not exactly sorry for the italians, because from what i saw, the koreans were a match for them.
so in my mind, the spanish can protest, as long as they aren't rather...offensive, while the italians cannot.
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Angelo Scotto
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Milan, Italy
Oct 1999 time: 05:19
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Fez, you don't have to be angry with Yin, it's clear that he ignores soccer rules and so the match was correct and regular for him (come on, he wrote "Germany clearly stopped a U.S. goal with their hands" ignoring the fact that this is not a foul per se! He also said the two offsides called during the extratime were correctly called, what do you expect from him? a professional match analysis )
quote: Originally posted by Yin26
Quite a line of them, I might add. There have been plenty of dodgy calls AGAINST Korea |
Tell us about these dodgy calls against Korea, because no one else noticed them...
And remember that there's a difference between a throw-in and an offside uncorrectly called...
quote: Originally posted by Yin26
Point of fact: One 'denied' goal was a good call. End of story. The other call denied BOTH teams of a clean ending. Golden Goal? Maybe. Blocked shot? Possible. The goalie stopped playing. |
Maybe it would be a great goal or not, the point is that we will never know because an incompetent linesman raised his flag.
Does FIFA has to do something to avoid this in future WCs or it's all ok for you?
And, following your way of reasoning, what about those two offsides uncorrectly called during extra-time? attackers stopped playing, so you can't say these were not goals...
quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee
And Yin26's views are generally interesting to read.
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This is the first time i read something from Yin26 but i find your statement hard to believe... 
quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed
for chrissake, the one thing everybody who watches football should know is that ref calls are like smac's random events! |

So, in your opinion what's the point of having a referee on the field? they could just throw a coin and the effect would be the same, is really this one your opinion about soccer refeering?
quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed
they often suck, resulting in a decision against you(r favorite team), often taking you out of the lead for a brief while. |
Maybe referees often suck, but the frequency of errors during this WC is out of any statistic of previous leagues, and all errors we're discussing here were, to say at least, gross blunders
Come on, this is a WC! not a flat owner's tournament, do you really think this is the refeering level it deserve?
quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed
now, the hallmark of any good smac player is that he can overcome that (god**** ****ing) random event.
a good football team should also overcome that (god**** ****ing) bad call. |

No, explain me, you really are comparing a soccer World Cup with a SMAC game?
quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed
so even though one of those goals was eliminated on a questionable call (the linesman's call), |
ONE!?!? QUESTIONABLE?!?! 
It's clear that you were playing SMAC and so couldn't watch the game... 
quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed
as for the italy game, i'm not exactly sorry for the italians because from what i saw, the koreans were a match for them. |
Now i'm definitely sure you were playing SMAC... I agree that Italy didn't play better than Korea, anyway, to quote your words, "the one thing everybody who watches football should know" is that not always the best team wins (and let me say also that Korea didn't played better than Italy, it was a boring match from a technical point of view) and Italy scored the golden-goal but it was illegally dis-allowed by an incompetend linesman who obviously didn't read Laws of Game since 1996 (and sadly he wasn't the only one during this WC)
Q Cubed and other supporters of the "Win the best" theory may continue the "bad losers, bad losers..." chorus but the truth is another one:
Italy doesn't win a world cup since aeons, Spain never won one, Portugal too, but never, in the history of recent World Cups, there were so much complainings about referees.
You may say that "errors are part of the game", maybe, but the statistical frequence of these critical errors is impressive (and one-way i would add).
Does this means something? ("Yes, that you're a bad loser" Q Cubed is probably thinking) but even Blatter thinks that this means something because he has announced that, starting from the next WC, systems of referee selection will be changed and this could be a starting point to avoid in future the same poor show we had in this WC (Shi wrote that "World Cup 2002 was an excellent story" but probably he was drunk or this WC is the first one he ever saw )
Greetings,
Angelo
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