04-07-2002 19:51									#1
	Change of Pace! PS2, XBOX or GC? Suffering from ads?

I would like to be really off-topic here, especially with all the recent heated discussions.

I am thinking of buying a new console but I am not sure which one! What are your experiences? what would you recommend?

Thanks for your input?!

	04-07-2002 19:55									#2
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X-Box hand down...

GameCube is good for kids.
PS2 is good for a large selction of games.

X-Box is good for best hardware, graphics, size of games, hard drive, and up coming internet use.

	04-07-2002 20:01									#3
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Either the GC or XBox would be a good buy. However, the GC is cheaper and has a pretty good stable of games. It all depends on what your budget is.

	04-07-2002 20:44									#4
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I'd say it depends what games you want to play.

	04-07-2002 21:03									#5
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As Juggernaught said. Totally depends on what games you want. Go to any big gaming site, and it shouldn't be too hard to tell which games are the big sellers for each console.

With my taste in gaming, I'll get a PS2, eventually. But it all depends.

What games have you enjoyed before? This might be a good indication...

	04-07-2002 21:05									#6
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man with prices the way they are now you would be a fool not to buy a PS2 or X-Box.

Isn't it only 50 dollars more for a PS2 or X-Box over a game cube?

	04-07-2002 21:10									#7
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quote: Originally posted by November Adam man with prices the way they are now you would be a fool not to buy a PS2 or X-Box.

1) The PS2 isn't up to the GameCube in terms of hardware or graphics.

2) The GameCube is cheaper than the Xbox.

	04-07-2002 21:11									#8
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You're still getting the better deal with the Xbox...

For the Gamecube it's $149US, plus $20US for a 512KB memory card (basically required). Plus it doesn't come with a built in ethernet and harddrive, so it's overall cost will be well above the Xbox's $199 if you get either or both.

But it is about the games...

I've got an Xbox and PS2. I definitely like the Xbox way better than the PS2. It's simply better in every possible way, by a good margin, hardware-wise. I'm also liking the present and upcoming Xbox game library compared to the PS2.

But if you're heavily into the Japanese-style RPGs (Final Fantasy), you'll definitely want to get a PS2. Other than that I see no reason to... (Xbox is getting a FF-esque RPG made by some Japanese developer called Crimson Sea, which graphically puts FFX to shame, but I never cared for those games).

Gamecube...I'm not so sure about. People keep telling me to wait for the blockbuster Nintendo games, and then those games kept getting pushed farther back. I'm probably going to get one for the sake of completeness once they drop to $99 US whenever that is.

	04-07-2002 21:21									#9
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BTW, now that we've got real figures on consoles bought by consumers (rather than Nintendo's "sold to retailers" stuff they always pull in their press releases), the Xbox is up by nearly half a million (436,000) consoles in North America. Of course, PS2 continually outsells them both for whatever reason. But the gap has been steadily closing between Xbox and PS2, and rising between Xbox and GC...

In May:
PS2 -- 510,000
XBX -- 216,000
GCN -- 111,000

Cumulative total as of May, 2002
PS2 -- 9,200,000
XBX -- 2,118,000
GCN -- 1,682,000
AGB -- 6,500,000

Current software/hardware ratios:
PS2 -- 5.1 : 1
XBX -- 4.2 : 1
GCN -- 3.6 : 1

Not bad for a more expensive console, no?

Source is Gerard Klauer Mattison, numbers good up through May 31, 2002: http://www.gkm.com/reports/GamePlay...lay_2002_07.pdf

	04-07-2002 21:21									#10
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Well budget on the console itself is not much of a concern really. I mean $50 more or less it's not a whole lot. As for my the games I like: Lets's see I have a N64 before and a PS1 I liked both of them. Some games with the one and some on the other. That's what's troubling me?!?!? I would like to play Medal of Honor (PS2), then Morrowind and Battlefield 1942 (XBox) and I also like the "child" games of the game cube. I am not all that fond of ego shooters or japanese rpg. Although, I love good old AD&D based rpg?! The more I think of it and the more I look around it seems to me that a Solomondian solution, i.e. buy two at least will be the best one, but then it will start to get expensive! Especially with all the accesories I would need!

Problems, problems....

	04-07-2002 21:23									#11
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Don't bother with Medal of Honor: Frontline for PS2. It's total crap, a very poor cut down version of Medal of Honor: Allied Assault for the PC. Frontline is also coming in a slightly upgraded version for Xbox in a couple months if you still want it, though.

quote: I love good old AD&D based rpg?!

You'd probably like the upcoming "Dungeons & Dragons Heroes" game on Xbox, then.

	04-07-2002 21:28									#12
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I'm starting to get tired of people saying that the GC is all kid games.

	04-07-2002 21:30									#13
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X-Box seems too much like a glorified PC to me. My recommendation is Gamecube, but then again I've always been a huge Nintendo fan.

	04-07-2002 21:31									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Jaakko X-Box seems too much like a glorified PC to me. My recommendation is Gamecube, but then again I've always been a huge Nintendo fan.

By that same logic the Gamecube is a glorified Mac...so don't go there...

	04-07-2002 21:36									#15
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Na, it's more that I would be way more comfortable with my kids playing games on the Cube, as opposed to the XBox. Very few cartoony games on the Xbox. Even the ones they have (on the Xbox), still seem maturish. eg: Crash Bandicoot

	04-07-2002 21:37									#16
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Hey don't diss me Asher, I'm a certified Microsoft Lackey. I even have a Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation bag!

	04-07-2002 22:24									#17
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If you don't already have one, try and get hold of a cheap second-hand Dreamcast. There's plenty of good games avaliable and all the peripherals and stuff are dead cheap nowadays.

	04-07-2002 23:03									#18
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Want good realistic graphics? - PS2
Want great gameplay but at the expense of graphics that look kiddie? - Gamecube
Want a new house? - X-Box

A friend told me this joke:
John: Wow, this marble floor must have cost you a pretty penny!
Pete: Get off my X-Box!


Well, I thought it was funny.

	04-07-2002 23:04									#19
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PS2!

GTA3
GT3
FFX
MGS2

	04-07-2002 23:07									#20
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No! Gamecube!

Smash Brothers Melee
Wave Race Blue Storm
Pikmin
Zelda (soon)
Mario Sunshine (soon)
Resi Zero (soon)
Phantasy Star Online (soon)

	04-07-2002 23:12									#21
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Eternal Darkness
Metroid Prime
Turok Evolution
Lost Kingdoms

	04-07-2002 23:18									#22
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(soon)s don't count

	04-07-2002 23:21									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus PS2! GTA3 GT3 FFX MGS2

Precisely!

	04-07-2002 23:21									#24
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of course soons count, your making a purchase that should last a while, unless you want a Dreamcast.

	04-07-2002 23:22									#25
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Why? When you buy a console, you buy it for it's lifetime. You have to count the (soon)s.

But I'll still get a PS2 as well as a GC because I want to play FFX so bad!

	04-07-2002 23:23									#26
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I have a PS2 and FFX

as soon as I get money I will get more games (I have had the PS2 since January)

if FFX did not come out for the PS2 I would probably have waited and may have gotten an Xbox

Jon Miller

	04-07-2002 23:23									#27
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Splinter Cell is going to kill MGS2 when it comes out.

	04-07-2002 23:25									#28
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Bruteforce will top them all.

Have you seen BC for XBox? Looks tres nice!

	04-07-2002 23:26									#29
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FFXI is Going to be Multi-Platform, right? Or was it that the GC gets its own special Final Fantasy? I can't remember.

	04-07-2002 23:27									#30
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BC?