04-07-2002 23:28									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Sixchan FFXI is Going to be Multi-Platform, right? Or was it that the GC gets its own special Final Fantasy? I can't remember.

FFXI will be multiplatform

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	04-07-2002 23:29									#32
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I am not sure which I will get it for

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	04-07-2002 23:29									#33
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FFXI will be released on PS2 and PC

	04-07-2002 23:33									#34
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Yeah, must be that we get a special GC and GBA linked game.

	04-07-2002 23:36									#35
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Anybody knows if anyone plans any 4x TBS strategy 2D gaming on any console anytime soon?

I'll stick with the trust old game machine (PC) otherwise, thankyouverymuch, platform gamers.

	04-07-2002 23:36									#36
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FFXI is, what I heard, a disaster... (the Opening Theme set aside, a choir singin Esperanto? ) hardware trouble, and it costs helicopters to play.

	04-07-2002 23:36									#37
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc BC?

tried to find a link, no luck.

It was diplayed at E3, basically your a caveman and trying to devlope your tribe all the while fighting dinos and such.

	04-07-2002 23:38									#38
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Found some info on the Cube's Final Fantasy game

quote: A Final Fantasy title on GameCube? Friday, June 7 2002 Update by: Roogle Former president of Nintendo Hiroshi Yamauchi mentioned in an analysts' meeting that Square will release a new Final Fantasy game for the GameCube sometime next year in Japan. Development of the game will be handled by Square's newly-acquired subsidiary Game Developer Studio. While not much information has been released, it is known that the game will feature some sort of connectivity with Nintendo's Game Boy Advance. [Source:] Gameforms.

	04-07-2002 23:43									#39
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there will be one, but it's not FFXI

	04-07-2002 23:48									#40
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This is horrible. For now, any need of playing FF has been fulfilled by emulators or PSX. Now I should get PS2 and GameCube, both? Flaarg.

	04-07-2002 23:53									#41
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quote: PS2, XBOX or GC?

None! PC, I say.

	04-07-2002 23:53									#42
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Well, I'll get both.

Kass, you could wait for GC and PS2 emulators!

	04-07-2002 23:57									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus GTA3

PC version is much better.

quote: GT3

SegaGT 2002 looks far better, due out in September.

quote: FFX

He's already said he's not a fan of FF.

quote: MGS2

Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance is way better than that, and Xbox is getting it first (and best) in November.

	05-07-2002 00:00									#44
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It is my experience that if your PC is more than 10 seconds old, GTA3 will barely run on it.

	05-07-2002 00:03									#45
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Sixchan: Yeah, emulators, why not, except that at the moment my PC hardly can run PSX emulators.

	05-07-2002 00:03									#46
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DinoDoc: http://xbox.ign.com/articles/360/360483p1.html

Check out those screenshots and that preview from E3 for B.C.

quote: Want good realistic graphics? - PS2

PS2 sucks graphics-wise. The original GeForce has more graphical features.

BTW, My P3 800 runs GTA3 perfectly. Although that box has a GeForce 3 in it...

	05-07-2002 00:06									#47
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I'm a multiplayer nut, and for that reason Xbox is also most attractive because of Xbox Live...IMO, it's far far better than Sony/Nintendo's online plans. Nintendo doesn't plan to make any online games itself (thinks there's no market for it, like there was no market for a CD-based console back in the late 90s... ). Sony doesn't have the infrastructure experience possible or the budget to fund something on the scale of Xbox Live.

	05-07-2002 00:06									#48
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Maybe, but saying that was just a part of my X-Box house comment. And they look much more realistic than the new Zelda (why, oh why did they cel-shade it?).

ANd while I remember, here is something that might help you on the internet X-Box issue. http://gamer.tv/page/feature/3180739.htm

	05-07-2002 00:09									#49
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As I said before, I think it's a compliment when all people have left to complain about the Xbox is its size.

First it was it'd catch on fire all the time, then it was the Xbox would BSOD all the time, and then about how you'd have to install software on the Xbox, and about how no third parties would support the Xbox. All of those have proven to be false. So now what do they have left to grasp on to? Its size. For the love of God, when you actually put INTEGRATED FEATURES into a console (hard drive, ethernet, capable graphics chip, etc), it gets bigger.

The Xbox is the same size as the PS2 + HD + Ethernet. But it's far more solid, seeing as it's one solid unit...

And it fits a lot nicer in a home theater cabinet, just like a VCR/DVD player.

quote: ANd while I remember, here is something that might help you on the internet X-Box issue. http://gamer.tv/page/feature/3180739.htm

That's complete bullshit. The Xbox was "hacked" in 8 months, as in, with HARDWARE MODIFICATIONs on the Xbox (as in, 20 different pieces of solder of a $70US mod chip) you can run unsigned code on an Xbox. That's what it means by "hacked". FYI, the PS2 was "hacked" in less than a month, and it took 8 months for the Xbox...what are we whining about? It's impossible to make consoles hack-proof.

	05-07-2002 00:11									#50
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Well, the games don't look up to much either. Graphically impressive, yes, but good games? In my opinion at least, no.

And you can prevent hacking. Don't make it online!
The same way Piracy can be stopped by using cartridges.

	05-07-2002 00:13									#51
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Reading all these posts makes me wanna go out and buy all of them. Naturally my wife would behead me if I did that . I used to like playing games on the PC and I still do but I am sick and tired to have to upgrade all the time. I am trying to play Medal of Honor on PC and with my PIII 500Mhz, Kyro II and 768MB RAM it's not much fun. Games like Civ you can still play, although btwn turns you can go have lunch or something. Thus, I am reluctant to spend any more money to get a new PC to upgrade every two years or so.

	05-07-2002 00:13									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Sixchan Well, the games don't look up to much either. Graphically impressive, yes, but good games? In my opinion at least, no.

How many of the games have you played?

That is honestly the worst argument I've ever heard.

The Xbox in its 8 months has had far better games than the PS2, or even the GC, in their first 8 months. That's why the Xbox's tie-in ratios with software/hardware are significantly higher than either the PS2 or GC in the same timespan.

	05-07-2002 00:20									#53
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but cartridges suck and are expensive

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	05-07-2002 00:21									#54
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Gamecube!

Resident Evil (Zero comes out soon)
Eternal Darkness!

	05-07-2002 00:23									#55
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I'm getting an X-Box soon.

Have a GC. It's pretty kewl.

There's a Godzilla game coming out for GC! Destroy all monsters Melee!

	05-07-2002 00:24									#56
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But cartridges load faster, are more durable than CDs, and can be left strewn about the floor with little danger posed to them.

And seriously Asher, I've not really seen a game that really impressed me in any other form than graphics. Give examples of 'great games' on the X-Box, and I'll tell you why I didn't like them.

	05-07-2002 00:26									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Sixchan And you can prevent hacking. Don't make it online! The same way Piracy can be stopped by using cartridges.

I don't think you comprehend.

The Xbox "hacking" had absolutely nothing to do with being online. Absolutely nothing.

When they say "hacking" they mean making modchips do you can run pirated/unlicensed software (like Linux) on the Xbox.

I find it very sad that the GCN/PS2 fanboys don't have the intelligence to figure out how to read the article and see what it actually is about, but instead look like idiots citing it as a "bad thing" about Xbox Live.

	05-07-2002 00:28									#58
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umm

my cartidges have more problems then my CDs

and with CDs you can always just burn another (and it is cheaper to rebuy the game)

cartridges there is no replacing without a great cost

Jon Miller

	05-07-2002 00:30									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Sixchan And seriously Asher, I've not really seen a game that really impressed me in any other form than graphics. Give examples of 'great games' on the X-Box, and I'll tell you why I didn't like them.

It's incredibly easy to pretend you've played games deeply enough to get a feel for it, pariticularly when you've already established a clear bias against it.

But I'll list the games anyway. And be warned, I will quiz you on the games you've claimed to play.

This list will only include the Xbox console-exclusives, and doesn't even take into account that the Xbox gets the best version of the multiconsole games like Tony Hawk, EA games, Spiderman, etc.

Halo (been called the greatest FPS ever, or at least since Half-Life)
Morrowind (for those without high end PCs only, of course -- November Adam plays and loves the Xbox version)
Rallisport Challenge
Jet Set Radio Future
GUNVALKYRIE
World Series Baseball
Project Gotham Racing
Hunter: The Reckoning
Moto GP
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	05-07-2002 00:32									#60
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I can say that Morrowind (PC) is great

Jon Miller