05-07-2002 09:23									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Asher The GC is the least appealing console right now as far as I'm concerned, as long as you're not very big on the old Nintendo franchises.

Why doesn't this suprise me considering how much you've been promoting the Xbox on the forums?

	05-07-2002 09:27									#92
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I call it as I see it.
Xbox is the superior hardware, backed by the world's largest company with the deepest pockets and most arrogance out of any other company in the world, so you can't go wrong.

And after seeing all these games that are being made for it, after seeing how they plan to implement Xbox Live, and how much the Xbox Division bends over backwards to help developers and fund new, innovative games -- I think it's the right choice.

Right now Sony and Nintendo are continually milking their franchises for all their worth. How many Pokemon games came out in the past couple years?

I've got a short attention span -- gimmie new games, damnit.

	05-07-2002 09:29									#93
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ahhh

such a capitalist

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	05-07-2002 09:31									#94
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Life becomes so much easier when you break everything down, look at it logically and how it will affect you, and make a decision from there. Much better than this "faith" and "loyalty" nonsense people spew out.

	05-07-2002 09:37									#95
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I looked at the list of the upcoming games for the Xbox and the GC and found Nintendo to have the most appealing stable of games. It's as simple as that, Asher. Loyalty and faith don't enter into the equation.

	05-07-2002 09:39									#96
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Lists of upcoming games with titles and unfamiliar franchises to you...doesn't surprise me.

I mean you're seeing a list of names you haven't heard of before vs "Mario", "Zelda", "Starfox", etc. Of course you're going to find Nintendo's more appealing.

Perhaps you should read up on them. If you're still not interested in those types of games, I would put forth the suggestion that your faith/loyalty, subconscious or not, is affecting your judgement...

For example, what consoles have you owned?

	05-07-2002 09:40									#97
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A lot of the games that I'm interested in that are coming out for the Xbox are heading to the GameCube as well.

	05-07-2002 09:41									#98
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Is that because you read up on them after you found out they were heading to the Gamecube?

	05-07-2002 09:50									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Is that because you read up on them after you found out they were heading to the Gamecube?

Suprisingly no. You're the one that told me about Jedi Knight 2. I've also recently become interested in the Rainbow 6 franchise and was looking at the Ubisoft E3 site and found out about Ghost Recon. I've also heard a rumor that Splintered Cell is headed to the GC as well.

The only game coming out for the Xbox, that I know about, that makes me extremely envious is the Crimson Skies game they are getting.

	05-07-2002 09:54									#100
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So you're not a fan of the Panzer Dragoon series, ToeJam and Earl (I'm assuming you've never played these, since they were Sega games, but you missed out on some great games if true), Ninja Gaiden, Project Ego, B.C., Blinx, Psychonauts, Brute Force, Malice, Kakuto Chojin, etc?

If you haven't heard of a game or don't know exactly what it is, you should take the time to check out the preview of it at xbox.ign.com or gamespy or gamespot or something. There are some really killer games coming out. I would be incredibly surprised if Crimson Skies is the only game you're envious of...

	05-07-2002 10:38									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Asher So you're not a fan of the Panzer Dragoon series, ToeJam and Earl

No, I'm not. However, I will admit to drooling when I saw the Orta screenshots. There's just not enough info relesed on it to wet my interest yet though.

quote: Ninja Gaiden,

I didn't even like it on the NES. Of course, I was caught up with the Double Dragon series back then. So that might explain it.

quote: Project Ego, B.C.,

I got burned with Black & White. I don't think that I could bring myself to even look at another Lionhead offering.

quote: Blinx,

Platformers don't interest me much. That's why I don't care about Mario Sunshine.

quote: Psychonauts,

If I owned an Xbox, the game looks like it would be worth buying. I'll be content with playing Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem though.

quote: Brute Force,

I'm not exactly sure what to think of this game.

quote: Malice,

Definately not.

quote: Kakuto Chojin,

Looks like a pretty fighter. Kind of like Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance.

Looks like an interesting stable of games. If I ever get any extra money, I might get an Xbox to go with my GC.

	05-07-2002 10:42									#102
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Brute Force is the game everyone insisted was pre-rendered when the trailer was released online.

No one believed it until they could play it for themselves at E3.

It's the first game that also uses the Xbox's MCP (Media & Communications Processor) chip to do extra graphics work as well, since they weren't using the stuff for voice morphing and network code and all that...

	05-07-2002 11:02									#103
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I have had PS2 for 7 months now, and have 3 games: GTA 3, FFX, and MGS2

I am perfectly happy with that, and there will probably only be two more games I buy in the next 3 months (Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Suikoden 3), unless Xenosaga or some other game I'm interested in comes out.

The X-box is pretty, but that's as far as it goes for me. None of it's games interests me. I've played most of them. I'm an rpg and strategy fan almost exclusively. I'm sure Halo and the like are good games for FPS fans, but they're not for me.

I don't give a crap about graphics. GTA2 is as good as 3, and Fallout 1 and 2 are better than most more recent rpgs.

GC: *shrugs* what can I say. I don't like Nintendo. Never have. I preferred the genesis to the SNES, PSX to N64, and now both PS2 and Xbox over GC. Nintendo will go the way of Sega soon. (other than the fact that the DreamCast was an awesome console with awesome games, and, IMO, was and is better than current consoles. While GameCube, is none of these things.)

Anyway, I'll start liking GC and Xbox more when they start releasing some games in Eastern Europe. Sony isn't that great either. I'm sick and tired of paying American merchants on ebay outrageous shipping fees to send internationally.

	05-07-2002 12:05									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Xbox is the superior hardware, backed by the world's largest company with the deepest pockets and most arrogance out of any other company in the world, so you can't go wrong.

So if the hardware is so much better games will only get better with t ime. Ok, the quality of games in terms of storyline, etc. may not neccesarily but the graphs!!

Thanks fo r the info on Medal of Honor Asher I searched the net like crazy but I could not find anything. Do you have any link?!

Another question to some of you ?

Do you guys ever sleep?! I mean you have been posting a lot (thanks a lot for the input) but it seems that you guys are on 24/7!!!

	05-07-2002 12:08									#105
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Re: MOH Frontline - http://www.gamers.com/news/1168901

Re: Sleep & on 24/7

My school, my job, and lots of my free time involve using computers, and whenever I'm the slightest bit bored I open up Poly for a bit.

	05-07-2002 12:25									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Re: MOH Frontline - http://www.gamers.com/news/1168901

You wont believe it but I have researched a lot during the past couple weeks on the net and browsed a lot of magazines at the news stand but to no avail. Thanks for the info, I have now definetily ruled PS2 out.

I am thinking of getting the NGC and the Xbox. Although I will get the XBox first and then if I have the neccesary change later in the year I will get NGC.

quote: Re: Sleep & on 24/7

That's it I knoew there was a way to sleep and still be online!!!!

	05-07-2002 13:20									#107
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You should buy a PS2 or the Gamecube.
But never buy a xbox

	05-07-2002 17:03									#108
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If he has researched it, and he still prefers the X-Box, thhen good for him. Obviously the games appeal more to him. Rather than follow nintendo, I'd more regard myself as a follower of Rareware, since I believe they are the best third-party developers out there. Since Rare are staying with nintendo, I feel secure that my Gamecube will bring me the quality games that I like. Now, all I have to do is assemble a crack team of Zelda fans, get a helicopter and invade the NOJ HQ and FORCE them to un cel-shade Zelda.

	05-07-2002 17:52									#109
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Sixchan,

I have not ruled out NGC, I actually love the Rare games myself. Besides I am aproud honor of a N64 and fan of Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and other Nintento titles. But I would also like to have the selection of some good RPG, ie. Morrowind, or some good ego shooter i.e. Medal of Honor (the date of the release for the game on NGC is not yet announced). And I also would finally to get that X-region DVD player.

I must say though that I saw Roque Squadron in a store today and I was stunned at the graphics.

	05-07-2002 18:10									#110
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quote: Originally posted by The Pioneer I must say though that I saw Roque Squadron in a store today and I was stunned at the graphics.

That's not even the game that truely shows off what the GC is capable of in the graphics department, IMO. The gameplay for Rogue Squadron was very well done though.

However, if you really want the X-region DVD player the Xbox would be the best choice for you.

	05-07-2002 18:57									#111
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I actually didn't like Rouge Squadron much. I don't know why, I simply didn't take to it, I guess it just wasn't my thing. Super Smash Brothers Melee, though...

	05-07-2002 19:39									#112
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Is Melee in single player really good?

	05-07-2002 19:50									#113
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I haven't played it that way much, being that I don't yet have a Gamecube. Every weekend my friend gets us all together to have a Smash Brothers tourney. I keep losing in the final.

	05-07-2002 19:52									#114
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quote: I've got a PS2 and Xbox, not just a PS2 like you, so I can play both.

I just got a GC as well. No point in buying an Xbox since there are very few games out here, and XBox sales in Europe are extremely low. It seems that MS is considering Europe as an unimportant market, so I don't feel inclined to get an XBox. And so far, hardly any game out on that console here is worth playing. I got a PC, GC and PS2. That's all I need. Maybe, just maybe, I'll get an Xbox, though that's very unlikely considering the current status in the market. And I'm not the only one who feels this way. Like I said, few here buy the XBox. Most buy PS2s, quite a few buy GCs, but Xbox sales don't come anywhere close.

	05-07-2002 23:40									#115
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Europeans typically are very odd critters indeed.

The North American game market has PS2 in #1 (and falling) and Xbox in #2 (and rising), with GC in #3.

The North American market is the largest single video game market in the world, but Europe and Japan combined are bigger.

	06-07-2002 00:20									#116
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In both Europe and Japan it's #1 PS2, #2 GC, #3 XBox.

And Xbox is trying to expand in Japan, but hardly in Europe. It seems MS doesn't care much about our market (which still is one of the 3 biggest). Combined with the very small number of good games avaliable on the Xbox, it gives me no reason to buy one.

Feel free to convince me though.

	06-07-2002 02:02									#117
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MS cares about all of the markets, you know as well as everyone else they're bent on global domination.

Your "small number of good games" for the Xbox comment is a bit odd, considering that a quick check on IGN shows 12 Xbox games rated 9.0 or above, and only 7 Gamecube games 9.0 or above...

And again, you should compare the Xbox's current 8-month-old lineup to the PS2's lineup at the same time in its lifespan. The PS2 was in a far worse position, it only started picking up after GT3. A quick look at the graphs in that PDF report earlier will confirm that for you.

	06-07-2002 02:03									#118
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BTW, here's a great article on some of the upcoming exclusive Xbox games: http://www.xengamers.com/sections/features/7862/

And there is definitely no shortage of upcoming games:

http://xbox.ign.com/release.html

Some other extremely promising titles as Xbox console exclusives I forgot to mention earlier:

Duality: http://xbox.ign.com/articles/136/136999p1.html
House of the Dead 3 (light-gun shooter, extremely popular arcade game)
Rainbow Six: Raven Shield: http://www.gamespy.com/previews/april02/ravenshield/ (No other console is getting it)
Shenmue 2: Sequel to the incredibly popular Shenmue from the Dreamcast.
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Bioware RPG)
Unreal Championship
Midtown Madness 3 (loved 1 & 2...)

Last edited by Asher on 06-07-2002 at 02:16

	06-07-2002 02:18									#119
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I'm getting a major Deja Vu here.

Anyway, everyone who's going GC should try Super Monkey Ball, I just got it. Man, talk about getting value for your money. The last levels are so impossible that this game will last forever.

	06-07-2002 02:19									#120
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I have an incredible dislike for games which try to make gameplay last longer simply by making you do the same level hundreds of times before you pass it...