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More like wasting thread posts by nattering like a couple of old bags!


Listen, Caligastia, if and when you want to post in Havak's and my thread, please PM either of us? Thanks kindly.

I'm probably more accessible than Havak. He seems to spend time away from his work station with his head buried in a scrum machine reliving the old days at #3.

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Where are Andydog and his pup Mickeyj? And Tamerlin? And LDiCesares? I assume I'll get up in the morning and find they've all wacked their money on the Wallabies.

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The scrum machine can't quite emulate that skull-popping feeling of old. Plus it lacks the necessary flailing limbs et al.

But yeah I do leave my desk a fair bit. There's coffee to be drunk after all.

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Well the 'old' I can put up with but if 'bags' means old ladies like I think it does I've got to say "oi, leave it out bloke".


No no. "oi, leave it out mate!" sounds much more natural. You have to know when to say bloke and when not to.

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Listen, Caligastia, if and when you want to post in Havak's and my thread, please PM either of us? Thanks kindly.



Youre *this* close to getting a yellow card matey!

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You have to know when to say bloke and when not to.


True no doubt. But somehow using 'mate' to someone who had just called me an old lady didn't seem quite right.

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True no doubt. But somehow using 'mate' to someone who had just called me an old lady didn't seem quite right.


'mate' isnt something you necessarily say to friends only. For example if you saw a stranger do something crazy you could comment to him 'youve got problems mate'.

Anyway, Im glad you and Finbar enjoy posting in this thread so much. Are we mates again?

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Waow ! No time for this Rugby thread.
I have more than two pages to read.

If it's not too late, I'am betting 27,81 Gold in favor of the Aussies.

Let's go for 30, I think it will be easier to compute (but far less interesting).

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Hi dudes, I'm back from luvly Switzerland - fantastic place, but they don't play much rugby there.

Put me down for 30 gold on the boks please!

Mikeyj also wants to put 30 on the boks (he won't be able to post tonight).

Cheers

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Andydog-

Where did you go in Switzerland? I used to date a girl who lived in the tiny country of Liechtenstein.

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Youre *this* close to getting a yellow card matey!


Yeah yeah, ref, you and whose army? C'mon c'mon, show us the colour of your cards!

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True no doubt. But somehow using 'mate' to someone who had just called me an old lady didn't seem quite right.


"Mate" is one of those great all-encompassing words. It can, of course, refer to a friend. If stressed at the end of a sentence - "Fair suck of the sav, mate" - it can have a nicely threatening quality to it. It's also incredibly handy when you've forgotten someone's name. Bottom line - it's one of those words for every occasion. You should've used it.

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Anyway, Im glad you and Finbar enjoy posting in this thread so much. Are we mates again?


Hey Havak - we've bluffed the ref! He's backed down! So much for on-field discipline in this thread for the rest of the season. You can shepherd the ball carrier all you like, I can sneak up off side -

Which, I guess, means we're playing SH rules?

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Waow ! No time for this Rugby thread.
I have more than two pages to read.


Enjoy. Especially our tributes to you on the previous page.

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If it's not too late, I bet 27,81 Gold in favor of the Aussies.




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Let's go for 30, I think it will be easier to compute (but far less interesting).


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Hi dudes, I'm back from luvly Switzerland - fantastic place, but they don't play much rugby there.


Did you know they have a navy?

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Did you know they have a navy?


Yes, patrolling the Leman's Lake.

I'am here for a few minutes after having read all these posts.

I must say Havak & Finbar Rugby thread sounds like a pretty good tittle , I admit I really appreciate reading your posts and your sense of humor.

By the way, so far no one has massacred the beautiful language of Molière and Voltaire, keep on speaking french.

I've certainly made on Apolyton and this thread more english grammar mistakes than you will ever all together make in whatever other language you know.

Allez les Wallabies !

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With bets placed for tonight's match, our Bank A/c stands as follows:

academia 112-20 = 92

Andydog 122-30 = 92

Caligastia 117-20 = 97

finbar 60-30 = 30

Havak 116-20 = 96

LDiCesares 102

Mickeyj 70-30 = 40

ravagon 116-10 = 106

Tamerlin 85-30 = 55

I can only assume that LDiCesares is, in Blackjack terms, "sitting".

The bets for tonight have been placed as follows:

Wallabies
academia 20
Caligastia 20
finbar 30
Havak 20
Tamerlin 30

Springboks
Andydog 30
Mickeyj 30
ravagon 10

Thus the pool stands at 190 Civ Gold.

If you're successful, you will win as follows (including your original stake):

academia 32
Caligastia 32
finbar 47
Havak 32
Tamerlin 47

Andydog 81
ravagon 28
Mickeyj 81

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I must say Havak & Finbar Rugby thread sounds like a pretty good tittle , I admit I really appreciate reading your posts and your sense of humor.


You reading this, Caligastia? Taking it in? That's 3 votes for a change of thread title.

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By the way, so far no one has massacred the beautiful language of Molière and Voltaire


Tu n'as vu rien encore! (That's an English idiom, I have no idea how it works in French )

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keep on speaking french.


Tu seras désolé!

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Allez les Wallabies !


Mmmmmmmm ... je l'espère ...

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Where did you go in Switzerland? I used to date a girl who lived in the tiny country of Liechtenstein.


Went to Zurich and a few of the towns around Lake Zurich. I ate plenty of cheese and drank lots of beer, and I have to say, the quality of the women was outstanding. I wasn't aware that the Swiss had a navy, but I was aware that they have a huge army (15% of the population) that can mobilise within 48 hrs as they all keep their weapons etc at home. They are very proud of the fact that Hitler didn't try invading them during WWII.

Anyway, as the fallout of the Sir Thomas report continues, I see that Rob Fisher has been reinstalled as chairman of the NZRFU! This is dumb. The report went on and on about the breakdown of international relationships, so why stick a guy in with issues? And more importantly, who doesn’t get on with the ARU?

Must start getting ready for the game. Go the Boks!

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You reading this, Caligastia? Taking it in? That's 3 votes for a change of thread title.




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Tu n'as vu rien encore!


Almost perfect, for this sentence just remember we are not placing all the words and verbs in the same order and you write : "tu n'as encore rien vu !".

I have sometimes some trouble to fully understand some of your posts because I don't know how to name a player if we refer to the number i its back. Why not a little dictionary?

I'am starting :

1 - Pilier Gauche
2 - Talonneur
3 - Pilier Droit
4&5 - Deuxièmes ligne (second row)
6 - Flanker
7 - Flanker
8 - Troisième ligne centre
9 - Demi de mêlée
10 - Demi d'ouverture
11 - Ailier Gauche
12&13 - Centres
14 - Ailier Droit
15 - Arrière

If you notice a mistake, please correct me LDiCesare.

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Which, I guess, means we're playing SH rules?


We do always seem to be mates

whihc answers Caligastia's question nicely.


Well I just had to pop by when I noticed Steve Lander had the helm.

What did you guys make of him I wonder? I don't want to pre-empt you but he is my least favourite English referee

I felt the Boks were very unlucky indeed - but I'm sure Finbar is happy?

Okay - as I only caught the second half who caused that mass brawl in the first half? I wasn't surprised to see my old mate Harrison was binned given his lack of self control but was it for reaction or causing it?

Big pressure on the Kiwis now for if they fail to step up to the mark next weekend it makes the Wallabies red hot favourites?

Tamerlin - why have Toulouse pulled out of the game? It makes no sense to me. Now we will end up playing some lame Welsh side no doubt.

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Tamerlin - why have Toulouse pulled out of the game? It makes no sense to me. Now we will end up playing some lame Welsh side no doubt.


I'am learning this news from you Havak, I don't know at all what is going on and I'am rather surprised as this match has been scheduled a long time ago.

I will try to learn more about this (I'am afraid we will have to wait for monday which is the day the "Midi Olympique" is published) and will inform you as soon as I know more about this affair.

What about today's match, who has won and by which margin ?

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Australia won 38-27 although a last minute try flattered them somewhat.

Catch up with you Monday

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Australia won 38-27 although a last minute try flattered them somewhat.


It seems that my gold reserve is melting like ice under the sun.

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Finbar show me the money!!!!

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Almost perfect, for this sentence just remember we are not placing all the words and verbs in the same order and you write : "tu n'as encore rien vu !".


Ah! Yes, I knew that the "rien" came before the passé participe. I just forgot! But I had no idea that "encore" came before the passé participe, too. I learned French for 9 years, but a long time ago!

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1 - Pilier Gauche = Loosehead Prop
2 - Talonneur = Hooker
3 - Pilier Droit = Tighthead Prop
4&5 - Deuxièmes ligne (second row) = 2nd Rowers, Locks
6 - Flanker (not sure at all) = Blindside Flanker, Blindside Breakaway
7 - Troisième ligne centre = Openside Flanker, Openside Breakaway
8 - Troisième ligne aile = Number 8
9 - Demi de mêlée = Halfback, Scrum Half, 5/8
10 - Demi d'ouverture = Fly Half
11 - Ailier Gauche = Left Wing
12&13 - Centres = Inside Centre & Outside Centre
14 - Ailier Droit = Right Wing
15 - Arrière = Fullback

There are some variations on these names. In New Zealand, for example, I've heard the Inside Centre called the 2nd Fly Half.

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Anyway, as the fallout of the Sir Thomas report continues, I see that Rob Fisher has been reinstalled as chairman of the NZRFU! This is dumb. The report went on and on about the breakdown of international relationships, so why stick a guy in with issues? And more importantly, who doesn’t get on with the ARU?


Good points. You have to wonder what they're doing. The two Unions should be working for a closer relationship. And I know John O'Neill doesn't help that cause. Hopefully the whole Ben Tune cover-up debacle will have some impact on attitudes.

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Thanks for the translation Finbar, things will be easier in the future.

By the way : say not passé participe but participe passé, same principle...

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Well I just had to pop by when I noticed Steve Lander had the helm.

What did you guys make of him I wonder? I don't want to pre-empt you but he is my least favourite English referee


Which probably explains why no one had any problems with him last night. He policed the breakdown well, was sensible with his advantage rulings, but didn't blow the pea out of the whstle. The Boks copped a high penalty count for the simple reason that they insisted on fouling, particularly at the breakdown when deliberately slowing the ball. Skinstad - whom I'm yet to be convinced has a brain in his head - and their hooker were serial offenders. Lander ended up warning them about the sin bin.

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I felt the Boks were very unlucky indeed - but I'm sure Finbar is happy?


If you were to watch the whole match, you'd realise the Boks weren't unlucky. They picked up two tries - one of them an individual effort down the tryline - that, I think, flattered their scoreline.

In fact, if Matt Burke hadn't missed 2 penalties and a conversion that he'd normally pot with his eyes closed - and Mortlock, who took over the kicking when Burke went off, hadn't missed a pretty easy penalty and another conversion, the scoreline would have better reflected the game. And I wouldn't have done my Civ Gold!

The Boks were blitzed for most of the first half, lifted after the Wallabies lost 2 players to the bin - more on that later - and had a better second half. Certainly, the Wallabies were guilty, again, of taking their foot off the accelerator, though not as markedly as before. It's something they have to deal with. It almost looks like a loss of concentration.

All that said, it was a terrific, tough, entertaining match. And the Boks are a very promising outfit. I really think, though, that they do themselves a huge disservice with the attitude and tactics they take onto the field. Their priority seems to be aggro and fouling. They've got some terrific skills - as they showed later in the game - but they seem to be treating them as the second string to their bow.

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Okay - as I only caught the second half who caused that mass brawl in the first half? I wasn't surprised to see my old mate Harrison was binned given his lack of self control but was it for reaction or causing it?


It all started prior to halftime when the Bok fullback took out Chris Latham with a very ugly tackle - shoulder straight into the nuts - while Latham was in the air. There was the usual bout of remonstration, but then it exploded. The Bok #3 must have done something fairly untoward because he was set upon. Even Steve Larkham was after him, which is a very, very, very rare sight. Justin Harrison and Jeremy Paul were pinged for punching. Rightly so. It was stupid play.

But I'm dying to know what the Bok #3 got up to that had even mild-mannered Steve Larkham after his blood. There was a report in this morning's media that a player - the team wasn't identified - was seen kicking an opponent. I've got the game on tape so I'll have a very close look.

The brawl aside, and the usual aggro that goes on aside, the match actually featured several miniature episodes of good spirit. More than once, both sides were to be seen helping their opponents to their feet. You don't see it much.

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Big pressure on the Kiwis now for if they fail to step up to the mark next weekend it makes the Wallabies red hot favourites?


The Wallaby blitz in the first half produced some magical rugby. The first 2 tries were blissful - superb angles, handling and timing. But they're going to have to keep their minds on the job a lot more than they do. One of the Bok second-half tries exposed a defensive weakness, so the Wallabies are going to have to improve there, too. With great respect to the Boks, the ABs will take greater advantage of defensive problems.

If the Wallabies play as they can, they'll win. Ditto the ABs. It promises to be an enthralling game.

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By the way : say not passé participe but participe passé, same principle...


D'oh!

 
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