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Originally posted by finbar
Thanks for the summation. So you still reckon 15 points?
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No worries, yeah, I think 15 is about right.
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Depends who you're talking about. The remaining full-blood aborigines live mostly in settlements on their lands. Unfortunately, they're being just about destroyed by everything we brought to the country - most of all, booze. There's a larger number that has inter-married. They suffer the same problems. More so, in fact, because a lot of them have completely lost their roots. They're stranded in a sort of hellish, nightmarish limbo. Part of the problem is that, just beneath the surface, this is an incredibly racist country. (The further north you go, the more racist the average Australian) So, tragically, there's probably never going to be a solution. Eventually, the full-blood aborigines will cease to exist altogether, and, ultimately, through inter-marriage, there will be next to nothing left of them at all. |
Interesting. Perhaps in the long run it will be better this way because I look at the integration of the maoris into NZ society as being pretty successful. There are no full-blooded maoris left, but there is also very little racism against maoris.
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14 1/2 sounds good, put me down for 20 on the Wallabies
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:20
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Originally posted by Havak
I remember both games well – the game over there is where Giffen threw the punch that let the Boks slip through for a try. |
Yeah, well. Swings and roundabouts. I'm sure Giff got more than 5 points' satisfaction out of it.
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The Perth game is where it took a last minute penalty for you to square up. It was lucky the ABs were so kind to you last year or you might have been at the foot of the table thanks to the Boks?  |
All too true. Bloody Boks can be like mobile phones, can't they? Going off at the most inopportune times?
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Regardless of that I have to go 20 on the Wallabies please (yes it IS against my religion to back them but I have to pick who I think will win or what is the point?)  |
Oh ye mercenary twayts, the lot of ye! 
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Was it the righteous truth of my argument steaming the very tears of agreement off your cheek? Well maybe not. |
More p*ssing myself laughing, having the heater on ... the laws of physics taking over ... steam ... say no more, really.
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Heh I like to talk rugby and you like (or have) to correct my misunderstandings a lot. Nothering in the way of nattering there. |
Frankly, I reckon it's assez atroce - ought to get his Gallic blood boiling, murdering his beautiful language - that Tamerlin's slinging off at us. For crying out loud, without us the others'd be digging through the Off Topic Archives for this thread whenever they feel like the occasional post! In fact, I'm lobbying Caligastia for a change of name for this thread - Havak & finbar's Rugby - The Beautiful Game! I figured I'd let you go first. Put a bit of cheer into your life before Guernsey or Jersey top you for Commonwealth Games medals.
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So you should. It’s a valid compliment to you. So often whilst over there I kept running into the ‘yellow blinkers’ brigade where any hint the Wallabies weren’t perfect could easily start a fight. |
Morons. Self-delusion's up there with self-abuse as a form of exercise - initially pleasant but ultimately pointless.
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Of course that Pom team was sporting the pure tri-colour nearly seventy years before the Eyeties started using it – before that they used the Kingdon of Italy flag (a despoiled tri-colour) – but then you knew that right? |
First cultural appropriation, now a history lesson on cultural appropriation. Actually, you should feel honoured even to be almost associated - noting your later point about the green - with such a rich, vibrant and meaningful tricolour. 
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Personally I’m happy to see you keep flying my club colours. |
Get the green right then run that by me again.
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If it makes you feel better our green is a much darker green? |
Enough said!
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Incidentally as I tend to wear my club fleece (with the tri-stripes on the arm) on tour I have been mistaken for an Italian all over Europe – ironic given that unlike yourself I can’t speak a word of it. |
What sh*ts me most of all is that you're about 2 hours flight away from the place! And I'm 22 hours away! 
I think I might end this post here. I was doing pretty bloody well till that last bit.
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:20
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Originally posted by Havak
 Excellent question there. Oh and spot on about the coffee. |
Well, as a former tighthead prop, I imagine you'd have to keep an eye on the silhouette.
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All I can recall is him looking at Mr McHugh with an incredulous expression on his face – “who, me sir??” |
I really and truly love it when I see players doing that. Great theatre. There's also a pattern - the taller and wider and the more busted knuckles the player, the greater the incredulity in the expression. And they say rugby lacks nuance. Only in rugby, I say, only in rugby.
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What would really bug me is if, having made such a spirited showing against the ABs, they now capitulated tomorrow. That’s the frustration of the Boks - totally unpredictable these days. |
Verily. I also suspect their crap about Ben Tune and drugs is going to backfire on them. I gather the Wallabies are very, very motivated. If Owen "I See Something Shaped Like A Football, I Kick It" Finnegan can just harness the ferocity and do some legitimate damage ... if, in fact, he starts ... I wouldn't be surprised if David Lyons trundled on to begin with.
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Indeed – we are carrying the thread on our broad shoulders.  |
And where's the thanks? Gallic moquerie!
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But of course Tamerlin can do no wrong for me – he is mon ami spirituel in defending the NH against the overwhelming SH tide here. |
I understand the need for an each-way bet.
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Now that was mangling his beautiful language. |
Ssssshhhhhhhh! Listen carefully ... you can hear the fuse burning down ...
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All it means to me is very pleasant country to vacation in. |
I'd say the same about Scotland.
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There’s precious little history to Italy as a nation state? |
Ah! It's all in the subtext. They haven't been a nation all that long - as national histories go - but they're still basically a collection of regions, with all the same old differences, prejudices and hatreds. And, being Italian, they consider it important to outdo each other for magnitude in all three. Which is as it's been since time immemorial. So I think it's really a matter of ongoing history rather than a fresh start with nationhood. God bless 'em. If only this sh*thole had a zillionth of the character.
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Sadly our colours are based on a local Army regiment and therefore pre-date even the Kingdom of Italy by well over a hundred years. |
Okay, so it's some Colonel Blimp (dec.) that I need to boot around the bollocks?
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They are therefore our colours in our combination and if anyone should stop using them it’s the Italians. |
As I say, pop into your local Leicester Paint Emporium, pick up a colour chart, mull over the various options for green, and get back to me.
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Did I mention I think I’m likely to be there again in Spring 2004 for the six nations test? I’ll probably pop into northern Italy next time I visit Monte Carlo as well. |
You know what infuriates me even more than that I live 20 hours further away from the place than you do? You hardly ever bloody go there!
Mmmm. A pattern is emerging. I sail triumphantly through most of my post, only to stumble at the last. I must revisit my strategy.
Last edited by finbar on 26-07-2002 at 18:55
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:20
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Originally posted by Havak
I don’t know much about David Lyons – I would guess he is slightly less of a psycho than Owen (safe bet eh?) |
I think I've mentioned him before. Young giant, #8 or flanker, quick, good skills. Only about 20. Big future. He's considered more mobile than Owen, but lacking the experience. Must more disciplined, obviously.
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Scotland is very nice but freezing and wet in all but the very height of summer, and absolutely riddled with blood sucking midges even when the weather is good. |
I loved the Highlands. Nicely eccentric up there, regardless of the weather. Or insects. I enjoy character.
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On reflection I could have had a lot more fun had I not pointed out the slight colour difference. |
Big tactical boo-boo. I was able to undercut your triumph! I'll look for you on the English coaching bench!
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I’ve physically stood inside the country the last two calendar years. I may yet make it there again this year. I’m not doing too bad surely? |
... I feel another spleen-venting session coming on ...
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We never appreciate things on our doorstep. I would like to bet more Brits in total have been to Miami than to Italy. But then you’ve spent time here – you know Yorkshire folk consider London too far to bother with let alone Italy.
By the way how often do you visit Melbourne? |
3 or 4 times a year. Went down just to go to a t'riffic restaurant last year.  I understand the difference between the Brit attitude to travel and ours. Here, it's basically a necessity. Or it becomes second nature anyway. For example, last weekend I had some of the Oz Civvers over for dinner. Hydey drove up from Melbourne, drove back again the next day. 2000 km in 3 days. Alexander's Horse came up from Canberra. 3 hours each way. He's coming up again this weekend because I'm having MOBIUS - a Pom from this forum who's out here for a while; well, okay, he's a Celt - and his girlfriend over for dinner on Saturday night. Another 3 hours each way for Horse. It's nothing to us. We've got friends with a weekender 3 1/2 hours drive up the coast.
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My city of choice in the East Midlands would be Nottingham – a much nicer place to visit (dire rugger team though). |
Can't say I've been to Nottingham. Derek Randall territory, wasn't it? Or was he Northants?
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