24-07-2002 04:14									#301
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great No it doesn't, Maximum Dimness. It depends on how strong their military is and how fanatical their population can become. You are the prime reason why the US will fall.

Okay, that makes no sense since I am the one who supports a strong military and you...well maybe you do, but you sure don't act like it often. I'm hardly fanatical. Sure, throw me in with a bunch of left-wing fanatics and I look like a Muslim bus-bomber, but in reality...when y'all decide to leave your liberal paradise, you will find that I am hardly a fanatic at all.

	24-07-2002 04:14									#302
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus I'm just saying that America is a good place to live overall. Holland is a nice place too, I'm sure. But it doesn't surpass America in everything, nor does America surpass Holland in everything.

Oh dear, you're not going down this road of 'US is best' bollocks. What is it with some of you lot, I bet you are one of these right-winged bible-belt types, you are all the same!

	24-07-2002 04:15									#303
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus I'm just saying that America is a good place to live overall. Holland is a nice place too, I'm sure. But it doesn't surpass America in everything, nor does America surpass Holland in everything.

Holland is also tolerant of gay people. Oops, now you're going to hell because you said good things about a sinful country.

	24-07-2002 04:15									#304
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison You really are beginning to look like a bigotted idiot Maximus. Imagine if you were persecuted for who you are, or had people telling you you are unnatural or the very nature of who you are is wrong. Get a life

I would get over it because I would look around and see that they were right instead of trying to make my closet the entire world.

	24-07-2002 04:16									#305
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Oh dear, you're not going down this road of 'US is best' bollocks. What is it with some of you lot, I bet you are one of these right-winged bible-belt types, you are all the same!

I bet you are one of those left-wing atheist types, you are all the same!

So what's your point genius?

	24-07-2002 04:17									#306
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great Holland is also tolerant of gay people. Oops, now you're going to hell because you said good things about a sinful country.

Maybe I should add you to my block list since you aren't adding me to yours.

	24-07-2002 04:19									#307
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I would post something in response to Dim Maximus, but I would probably get a trip to Mingapulco.

	24-07-2002 04:19									#308
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You're very stupid. I even corrected you and told you where I'd block you if I could.

Now how about you address the issue?

	24-07-2002 04:22									#309
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great You're very stupid. I even corrected you and told you where I'd block you if I could. Now how about you address the issue?

What issue? The one I was addressing until I got flamed in every post? Oh yeah, that one.

If you are going to flame someone, then expect them to answer you with a non-flame, maybe you should learn some manners. You see, they can only answer you without flaming you for so long. Then it becomes invetable. Much like a homosexual brings down society, you bring them down to your flaming level.

	24-07-2002 04:24									#310
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No one's falling for that "I'm morally superior" crap you're putting out and you deserve every bad comment directed at you.

	24-07-2002 04:28									#311
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great No one's falling for that "I'm morally superior" crap you're putting out and you deserve every bad comment directed at you.

Gee thanks. You're so very kind. I can see that homosexuals would love you for your kindness to them. Your words fall like rain on a parched land.

What you need to understand is that I am not claiming to be morally superior to you, I just point out your faults as easily as you point out mine.

	24-07-2002 04:28									#312
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Actually, if you look at cities as microcosms of society, it proves that homosexuals actually elevate society, not bring it down. Cities with large gay populations like New York and San Francisco enjoy higher standards of living and more prosperity than other cities. Cities with very low gay populations (Detroit) tend to be dilapidated rat holes.

If you want to live in a cultureless slum, just so long as there aren't any damn dirty gays to bother you, then I suggest you move to Detroit. Otherwise, leave your baseless moralizing out of the secular laws of this nation.

	24-07-2002 04:30									#313
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus Much like a homosexual brings down society, you bring them down to your flaming level.

Bigots like you are the ones that bring down society -- or, in our enligthen age, TRY to anyway.

Homosexuals and bisexuals are legitimate minority groups.

	24-07-2002 04:30									#314
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quote: What you need to understand is that I am not claiming to be morally superior to you, I just point out your faults as easily as you point out mine.

What, that I flame you while you spew your filth?

	24-07-2002 04:33									#315
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I didn't realise who you are at first DM. Bring this bigotry to CGN and find yourself on the end of a 4 week vacation in consideration of the previous warning. Keep it here.

	24-07-2002 04:38									#316
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*yawn*

Look this kid obviously has problems.... so let him be... he is probably an oppressed homosexual himself....

	24-07-2002 04:40									#317
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No, come and join us at the brick wall Fez and join us smashing our skulls to smithereens

	24-07-2002 04:41									#318
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Now, the problem here is that the second the Dim one here started equating gays to murderers and thieves, discussion should just have ended with ignoring him. I certainly hope moom will, by his own reasoning, categorically refute Dim's insane rantings and tell him to go away, as he is clearly projecting an image will reflect badly on others with similar views, no matter how much more moderate those folks may be...



In the meantime, I suggest everyone takes deep breaths and relaxes and just thanks whatever you believe in that you're not as f*cked up as the other guy.

	24-07-2002 04:41									#319
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He is probably a 13 year old kid looking for attention so I would rather not...

	24-07-2002 04:46									#320
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quote: Originally posted by Fez He is probably a 13 year old kid looking for attention so I would rather not...

Sadly, he's in college.

	24-07-2002 04:47									#321
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Is it Clown College, as I suspect?

	24-07-2002 04:50									#322
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great Sadly, he's in college.

The Great College of McDonald's Chefs is the only college he would get into....

If he is in College, I must be in the Special Forces... Oh well, I guess it is true anyways... but I am not in the Special Forces, I swear I am not...

	24-07-2002 04:59									#323
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You guys crack me up. I leave for a few minutes....and come back to this. How you lick each others wounds...did I wound you? You dismiss me as someone with major problems...you don't even know me.

Whatever...

I'm sorry for "disturbing the peace", but I felt someone had to stand up for what they believe in even if it isn't popular. If standing up for what you believe in is not acceptable here, then I guess I'll stop....I was just sick of seeing all your worldly opinions and "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine". I wanted you all to know that I disagree with your fakeness. I guess I can understand that you would be mad at me for showing you how bad you really are, for telling you that you can't save yourself. If I believed I could save myself, or that I was fine the way I was, I would probably be upset too. Ah well, now I will let the waves die down.

Just let one thing be known: I don't think homosexuality is harmless and there are others like me. Many others. So before you go to your dreamworld and think that I am a freak of nature, remember how long homosexuality was shunned.

	24-07-2002 04:59									#324
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Can you guys stop talking about Dimorier Maximus, and get back to the topic?

	24-07-2002 05:07									#325
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus I'm sorry for "disturbing the peace", but I felt someone had to stand up for what they believe in even if it isn't popular. If standing up for what you believe in is not acceptable here, then I guess I'll stop....I was just sick of seeing all your worldly opinions and "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine".

Let me explain you something. A long time ago I was very homophobic and at one point advocated firing squads but I am not that way anymore as I saw right through it as being false.

The point is these sort of beliefs are not popular here and are pretty much attacked by everyone in here.

If you want another forum that will accept your beliefs go here: http://www.newsmax.com and click on forum.

quote: I wanted you all to know that I disagree with your fakeness.

Again you are trying to force people not to keep their beliefs and in the end being hypocritical.

quote: I guess I can understand that you would be mad at me for showing you how bad you really are, for telling you that you can't save yourself.

Passing judgement on others is a fast way to get banned. Don't do it anymore. How bad we are? What a ironic statement to make.

quote: Just let one thing be known: I don't think homosexuality is harmless and there are others like me. Many others. So before you go to your dreamworld and think that I am a freak of nature, remember how long homosexuality was shunned.

Others like you? The vocal minority. A very small minority.

The majority is no longer like you. I concede a very large portion of the population in the US did infact discriminate against gays in the past but this is no longer the case. Most people are pretty much accepting religious convictions or not. But that changes and depends on where you are... if you are in Hickville, Oklahoma people are unaccepting, San Fran on the other hand is a different story. You are the sad and depressed minority.

We got beliefs and firm grip on reality whereas you do not.

	24-07-2002 05:50									#326
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Sometimes I think that the real cause of bigotry is the plain old "herd instinct". I'm not sure whether it's taught or genetic, but people tend to want to emulate each other. They want to emulate each other up to the point where they come across someone doing something that they would be uncomfortable with, like a guy seeing a guy kissing a guy. Could it be that for a heterosexual to see this generates a sort of internal "cognitive dissonance" because as a male he has some ingrained need to identify with other males? Perhaps seeing someone do something that he would consider "icky" then causes discomfort because in an abstract way he is taking part in the act through his natural tendency towards identifying with other males. What do you think? Am I right or am I just p*****g in the wind?

	24-07-2002 05:56									#327
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I think you are right Dr Strangelove.

	24-07-2002 05:58									#328
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Sometimes I think that the real cause of bigotry is the plain old "herd instinct"....

This would explain why a lot of homophobes seem to be much more upset over homosexual members of the same sex than over homosexual members of the opposite sex--opposite-sex homosexuals aren't as easily identified with (if at all) as same-sex homosexuals, so there isn't as much dislocation or "ickiness."

	24-07-2002 05:59									#329
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quote: Originally posted by Fez We got beliefs and firm grip on reality whereas you do not.

And you know this because you come over to my house every day and I confess all my problems to you?

You don't know that you have a firm grip on reality, and you don't know if I have a firm grip on it or not. So after all you said about how I was being hypocritical, in the end, like me, you couldn't resist to do it yourself.

	24-07-2002 06:01									#330
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus You don't know that you have a firm grip on reality, and you don't know if I have a firm grip on it or not.

I do have a firm grip on reality and that is all I will say.

quote: So after all you said about how I was being hypocritical, in the end, like me, you couldn't resist to do it yourself.

Do what, hypocrite?