24-07-2002 02:51									#211
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Sorry. I've not bothered reading most of this thread, Dimor Maxy-thingy. What's this got to do with taking it up the council?

	24-07-2002 02:52									#212
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus My house isn't in order because I believe that it takes a God to save a man. A man cannot save himself. It's not a sham, it's just the truth.

Wrong. You have no right to say what the truth is for other people or not. You have no right to set standards. But you do have a right to say you believe in god and you do have a right to continue being homophobic. Holding those beliefs is beyond me.

I am atheist and am not homophobic (I was for quite some time) and the truth for me is there is no god because it is not necessary.

	24-07-2002 02:53									#213
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus My house isn't in order because I believe that it takes a God to save a man. A man cannot save himself. It's not a sham, it's just the truth.

The truth? You, of course, know the truth. The voices, the result of a biochemically altered brain tell you. You don't know the truth.

Man controls his own destiny. As well as having great power, we have great responsibility. We should stop clinging to this childish notion that a super-deity will save us from ourselves...

	24-07-2002 02:53									#214
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Horrible example, this infringes on the rights to security of others. Try again. Is that really the best you can do? Pathetic... Tolerance is based on carelessness and selfishness? My God man, has anyone ever threatened to lock you up?

Homosexuality infringes on my rights to live a peaceful life where I don't have to see, hear, or read about homosexuality. I probably would be locked up in England, where they worship tolerance and the only sin is being intolerant which is actually hypocritical since they are being intolerant of those who are intolerant, thereby being intolerant too. Thank God I live in America.

quote: Murders infringe on the right to life of others, homosexuals do no such thing.

So where do you stand on abortion?

quote: It should be fairly obvious to even you by now that there's zero logic or reasoning behind your argument, you're going for outrageous comparisons that aren't even close to being applicable -- and that's all you have.

I don't find the comparisons as outrageous as some of the comparisons I've seen made by pro-homos in this thread.

	24-07-2002 02:55									#215
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"Jos homous sallitaan Suomessa niin suomalaiset loppuu."
"...ja voihan niitä romaaneja ja muitakin ulkomaalaisia tuoda Suomeen, mutta kun ne eivät tee töitä"
"Homotkin on alkanut viemään meidän suomalaisten naisia. Minun veljenikin vaimo lähti homon matkaan"

Kenen lekentaarisia quootteja? Se joka vastaa ekana oikein saa virtuaaliturpaan!

	24-07-2002 02:57									#216
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus Homosexuality infringes on my rights to live a peaceful life where I don't have to see, hear, or read about homosexuality.

"Christianity infringes on my rights to live a peaceful life where I don't have to hear rhetoric about God".
You can't really be comparing allowing sex between two consenting adults and murdering someone, can you?

quote: So where do you stand on abortion?

That's none of your concern and not part of this thread, and it's probably not what you think.

quote: I don't find the comparisons as outrageous as some of the comparisons I've seen made by pro-homos in this thread.

Perhaps this is because you've convinced yourself you and your faith are unquestionably right. It's most likely a defense mechanism to protect yourself from your homosexual urges. (It's a sin, I can't! It's a sin! It's a sin! ad naseum until he truly believes it)

	24-07-2002 02:59									#217
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison The truth? You, of course, know the truth. The voices, the result of a biochemically altered brain tell you. You don't know the truth. Man controls his own destiny. As well as having great power, we have great responsibility. We should stop clinging to this childish notion that a super-deity will save us from ourselves...

If you knew the Bible, you would know that it says you cannot be saved unless you become like a child. What great power do we have that can not be taken from us? We are fragile as clay pots. A bullet in the head would end your life. There you go making gods out of Man again.

	24-07-2002 03:03									#218
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What bullshit, Dimwhore Maximus. You have no right to tell other people what to do.

	24-07-2002 03:03									#219
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Yeah, we are not very strong. So what, it means we should treasure life all the more. And quite how does our fragility have any bearing on the existence of a God? And the existence of the bible for that matter, after all, arguing that the bible is proof and God and vice versa is just circular logic and has no basis.

	24-07-2002 03:03									#220
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus Homosexuality infringes on my rights to live a peaceful life where I don't have to see, hear, or read about homosexuality.

You stupid, pompass moron. You have no RIGHT to infringe on other people's rights because of their sexual orientation. How about you answer this question:

Why is it YOUR business if GOD will decide their fate?

	24-07-2002 03:05									#221
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Hmm. I just got an interesting message from some anonymous coward on AIM...

quote: DaMaNn151: hey joker DaMaNn151: don't **** around DaMaNn151: **** around you get killed

How nice.

	24-07-2002 03:05									#222
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Yeah, we are not very strong. So what, it means we should treasure life all the more. And quite how does our fragility have any bearing on the existence of a God? And the existence of the bible for that matter, after all, arguing that the bible is proof and God and vice versa is just circular logic and has no basis.

I find it interesting, since evolution relies on circular logic as well, that you would point that out about Christianity. I think if you search the world, you will find no idea that doesn't rely on circular logic.

	24-07-2002 03:06									#223
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Homosexuality isn't a sin according to God and the Bible.

	24-07-2002 03:06									#224
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Hmm. I just got an interesting message from some anonymous coward on AIM... How nice.

Ummm...that wasn't me just so you know. I don't even know your AIM name.

	24-07-2002 03:07									#225
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I wasn't saying it was you, it may have been someone else reading this thread and just not posting. His grammar is worse than yours.

He's not responding to my messages.

	24-07-2002 03:08									#226
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon What bullshit, Dimwhore Maximus. You have no right to tell other people what to do.

small_jon, go stick it in some gay body. You have no right to tell me that I can't tell other people what to do.

	24-07-2002 03:08									#227
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus I find it interesting, since evolution relies on circular logic as well, that you would point that out about Christianity. I think if you search the world, you will find no idea that doesn't rely on circular logic.

Christianity relies on this circular logic whereas evolution is a theory with considerable amounts of empirical evidence...stacks of the stuff, and new evidence fits in with the theory. The theory has been refined over the year, not overturned or change, just more flesh added to the bone. Evolution, and neodarwinian evolution do not rely on circular evidence. Unlike the God/Bible scenario

	24-07-2002 03:09									#228
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quote: You have no right to tell me that I can't tell other people what to do.

Sig time!

	24-07-2002 03:11									#229
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus small_jon, go stick it in some gay body. You have no right to tell me that I can't tell other people what to do.

Well, it beats jerking off and then being a hypocrite by telling how every sperm is sacred and all that rubbish

	24-07-2002 03:11									#230
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great You stupid, pompass moron. You have no RIGHT to infringe on other people's rights because of their sexual orientation. How about you answer this question: Why is it YOUR business if GOD will decide their fate?

I thought you were blocking me? I'm not a mod here, stupid. How about you answer this question:

Why do we punish murderers if GOD will decide their fate?

	24-07-2002 03:12									#231
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus small_jon, go stick it in some gay body.

Nah, I'm aure you're way too ugly and frigid for me.

And small? I'm 6'5" and have no size problems in any other areas (and I'm sure Aslan wouldn't like you checking )

	24-07-2002 03:14									#232
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quote: Why do we punish murderers if GOD will decide their fate?

To stop them from murdering people?

	24-07-2002 03:14									#233
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great You stupid, pompass moron. You have no RIGHT to infringe on other people's rights because of their sexual orientation. How about you answer this question: Why is it YOUR business if GOD will decide their fate?

Hey there CP, glad you could join the bullfight

	24-07-2002 03:15									#234
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Christianity relies on this circular logic whereas evolution is a theory with considerable amounts of empirical evidence...stacks of the stuff, and new evidence fits in with the theory. The theory has been refined over the year, not overturned or change, just more flesh added to the bone. Evolution, and neodarwinian evolution do not rely on circular evidence. Unlike the God/Bible scenario

They do rely on circular reasoning because you assume things that you can't prove. And then you run with it. You take a fossil and make a bunch of assumptions about it. And since you can't be proven wrong (because there are no time machines), you assume that you must be right. Then you build on that. Then you come back later and use it as evidence to prove something else. That's circular reasoning.

	24-07-2002 03:18									#235
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Well, it beats jerking off and then being a hypocrite by telling how every sperm is sacred and all that rubbish

I don't think I've ever said that every sperm is sacred.

	24-07-2002 03:19									#236
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus I don't think I've ever said that every sperm is sacred.

Wait wait wait...

you're against the use of condoms (contraception), yet you have no problem with masturbation?

	24-07-2002 03:20									#237
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quote: Originally posted by Asher To stop them from murdering people?

And we punish gays to stop them from having gay sex.

	24-07-2002 03:20									#238
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Wait wait wait... you're against the use of condoms (contraception), yet you have no problem with masturbation?

Masturbation is most likely a sin, but I never claimed to be perfect.

	24-07-2002 03:21									#239
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Maximus's gotta be a DL. This is getting really ridicolous.

	24-07-2002 03:21									#240
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus And we punish gays to stop them from having gay sex.

But gay sex doesn't affect you, unless you're being raped (something tells me you'd like it).

Murder != Gay Sex. Hello.