24-07-2002 03:22									#241
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus Masturbation is most likely a sin, but I never claimed to be perfect.

You're going to HELL.
Masturbation is a sin.

You're such a hypocrite. You're not even a good Christian!

	24-07-2002 03:22									#242
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus I thought you were blocking me? I'm not a mod here, stupid. How about you answer this question: Why do we punish murderers if GOD will decide their fate?

Where are you a mod, dimwit? Put two and two together and perhaps you'll figure out where I was going to. I have nothing wrong with fighting over here.

You didn't answer the question, coward.

	24-07-2002 03:22									#243
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus ...You take a fossil and make a bunch of assumptions about it...

You really think that this is the extent of the proof for evolution? There is the mechanistic aspect, you know, mutation, DNA, heredity and all that lot too, the proof of evolution occuring in single cellular organisms, and then that applied to larger organisms (look at artificial selection and our millennia of crop breeding). And then you can go further back and look at the fossil stuff, figure out where the branches occur, and then look at the genetic composition of their modern day descendants, study the homogeneity of their genomes and figure out how and why the diversifications occurred.

You have just performed, in that statement, a gross, gross oversimplification of the situation, and probably one from a position of gross ignorance.

	24-07-2002 03:23									#244
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Maximus's gotta be a DL. This is getting really ridicolous.

I'm not a DL, nor do I have any other screennames on this site. Get a mod to check my IP. He will find only this screenname under it.

	24-07-2002 03:23									#245
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Oh, and hello Provost.

	24-07-2002 03:23									#246
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Dimwhore's just a little stressed because he's been having difficulity with those damn indoor turlets.

	24-07-2002 03:25									#247
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quote: I'm not a DL, nor do I have any other screennames on this site. Get a mod to check my IP. He will find only this screenname under it.

If you aren't a DL, You gotta be serious. If you are serious, you are a...

I mean, loke of your post's above!

	24-07-2002 03:27									#248
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison You really think that this is the extent of the proof for evolution? There is the mechanistic aspect, you know, mutation, DNA, heredity and all that lot too, the proof of evolution occuring in single cellular organisms, and then that applied to larger organisms (look at artificial selection and our millennia of crop breeding). And then you can go further back and look at the fossil stuff, figure out where the branches occur, and then look at the genetic composition of their modern day descendants, study the homogeneity of their genomes and figure out how and why the diversifications occurred. You have just performed, in that statement, a gross, gross oversimplification of the situation, and probably one from a position of gross ignorance.

Hardly. But you're right. Maybe I should change majors because biology does interest me when I get in arguments like this. Mutation - often ends up being worse. Plus, I don't care how many mutations you get, you aren't going to evolve as much as they say things have in any number of years. You could go for infinity years and it wouldn't evolve that much. It requires a lot of faith on your part to believe that it could.

	24-07-2002 03:29									#249
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great Where are you a mod, dimwit? Put two and two together and perhaps you'll figure out where I was going to. I have nothing wrong with fighting over here. You didn't answer the question, coward.

I did answer your question, think about it.

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quote: Mutation - often ends up being worse. Plus, I don't care how many mutations you get, you aren't going to evolve as much as they say things have in any number of years. You could go for infinity years and it wouldn't evolve that much. It requires a lot of faith on your part to believe that it could.

	24-07-2002 03:31									#252
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Dimwhore's just a little stressed because he's been having difficulity with those damn indoor turlets.

small_jon, I'm wondering what a "turlet" is? Is that when you get your roundies sucked while the long one is packing fudge simultaneously? If so, I'm sure Aslan would know more about that than anyone else here.

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Dimwhorer, do you come from one of them there Southern States?

	24-07-2002 03:32									#254
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus I did answer your question, think about it.

No, you gave me an irrelevant question. Answer the question, coward.

	24-07-2002 03:33									#255
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Dimwhorer, do you come from one of them there Southern States?

Do you come from Fagland?

	24-07-2002 03:33									#256
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus small_jon, I'm wondering what a "turlet" is? Is that when you get your roundies sucked while the long one is packing fudge simultaneously? If so, I'm sure Aslan would know more about that than anyone else here.

Does this make sense to anyone else?

	24-07-2002 03:33									#257
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great No, you gave me an irrelevant question. Answer the question, coward.

You just don't understand my answer. Think about it some more.

	24-07-2002 03:34									#258
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus Do you come from Fagland?

I'll take that as a yes then, shall I?

Whereabout ya from, redneck?

	24-07-2002 03:34									#259
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus Hardly. But you're right. Maybe I should change majors because biology does interest me when I get in arguments like this. Mutation - often ends up being worse. Plus, I don't care how many mutations you get, you aren't going to evolve as much as they say things have in any number of years. You could go for infinity years and it wouldn't evolve that much. It requires a lot of faith on your part to believe that it could.

Oxford degree in Biochemistry here. Doesn't require faith at all. Evolution is a painstakingly slow process...billions of years is very, very slow...and remember, mutation generally has deleterious effects, only a small handful have a positive effect. And remember, mutations don't necessarily mean that the DNA sequence changes and voila, you have a completely novel protein. Remember that most proteins consist of very distinct motifs shared from protein to protein and that new proteins seen throughout evolution are not the result of a painstaking point mutation of every single nucleotide but rather a duplication and rearrangement of DNA as such, and thus proteins which may possess whole different properties. Remember, the actual generation of these proteins was the slow bit. Hence the jump from very basic organisms to the present point was in the 100s of millions of years and up to there was billions. Besides, this is besides the point, this thread is a discussion on homosexuality.

Now why is homosexuality a sin? Explain...you haven't backed up your argument in the slightest except for spouting dogma and rhetoric.

	24-07-2002 03:36									#260
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DM, I think you will have earned yourself a banning as soon as Ming arrives...makes our lives easier anyway.

	24-07-2002 03:36									#261
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Does this make sense to anyone else?

I didn't intend for it to make just a whole lot of sense, but anyways, ever since you've been spamming this thread, it seems that Asher has left. Ah well. I kinda respected him. I have little respect for those who call me names rather than trying to argue their point with some sense. So I don't intend on giving you anything intelligent to read when you give me nothing intelligent to read either.

	24-07-2002 03:38									#262
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus You just don't understand my answer. Think about it some more.

Answer the question in a statement, not another question. Now answer the question, coward.

	24-07-2002 03:40									#263
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison DM, I think you will have earned yourself a banning as soon as Ming arrives...makes our lives easier anyway.

Why? Because I have a different opinion? Yes, we believe in freedom for all, and the right to one's own opinions! So we will ban those who disagree with us! If I get banned for anything I've done in this thread, it is because the mod's are closed-minded fools like you that can't stand being told that they are wrong.

	24-07-2002 03:41									#264
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No, it's because no one wants you around. Put it to a vote and lets see who wants the bigot to stay.

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quote: No, it's because no one wants you around. Put it to a vote and lets see who wants the bigot to stay.

Yeah, who actually cares that she hasn't broken any forum rules...

	24-07-2002 03:46									#266
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Yeah, who actually cares that she hasn't broken any forum rules...

Who are you talking about?

	24-07-2002 03:47									#267
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quote: Who are you talking about?

What? You mean she (Dim-Max) ain't a woman?

	24-07-2002 03:47									#268
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great Answer the question in a statement, not another question. Now answer the question, coward.

Fine, I'll spell it out for you since you can't figure it out yourself. Why do we punish murderers if GOD will punish them? Because they damage society. Homosexuals damage society too. Sure, they don't kill people, but they bring society down with them by destroying moral values that are widely accepted in certain groups. Just like you don't want to deal with what you call "intolerant" people, I don't want to deal with homosexuals parading pride for their sexual status.

Edit: AND I don't want them telling me that what they do is okay and fine, just like you don't want me telling you that it isn't.

	24-07-2002 03:49									#269
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great No, it's because no one wants you around. Put it to a vote and lets see who wants the bigot to stay.

What came first? The chicken or the egg? The bigot or those that bigot the bigot who then become hypocritical bigots?

	24-07-2002 03:51									#270
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus Fine, I'll spell it out for you since you can't figure it out yourself. Why do we punish murderers if GOD will punish them? Because they damage society. Homosexuals damage society too. Sure, they don't kill people, but they bring society down with them by destroying moral values that are widely accepted in certain groups. Just like you don't want to deal with what you call "intolerant" people, I don't want to deal with homosexuals parading pride for their sexual status.

OK- I'll bite - how exactly does me sleeping with other men bring down society? The Greeks had a pretty decent society and they were extremely encouraging of homosexuality.