27-07-2002 07:53									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Promethus P22 It is unlikely that your system was built with a ATA 66 Drive and ATA 66 IDE connector and they put in a ATA 33 cable. It is more likely that you have a ATA 66 connector but the ATA 66 Hard Drive was an "Upgrade". You most likely have a ATA 33 Hard Drive.

I dont know what IDE cable they have used.

I have left my HardDisk on the original cable.

Then I bought that IDE Cable with the split and replaced the original IDE cable (which had not a split) in the secondary IDE conector.

So I still dont know what IDE it is..

BTW you were right:

Primary IDE conector: blue color
Secondary IDE conector: white color.

	27-07-2002 08:05									#122
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P22

I never lie and I am always right! (but you can still vote for me for Dog Catcher).

If it makes you feel better buy a 80 conductor ATA cable and try it with your Hard Drive, but I will bet $'s to dounuts that it will not make a difference.

	27-07-2002 08:08									#123
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 OK. I thought so too. But when I leave my mouse pointer on it, it says: "Opens the Write-CD Dialog". I guess it is this one

Thats it.

quote: Ok I'll try out different CDs. Does the speed capacity of the CD play any factor on this? Should I get low speed capacity CDs? And burn them on lower speeds? Does that help any in the CD player recognising them?

Shouldn't. The one I just burned is an 8X because thats the only 74 minute type I have at the moment. I don't burn a lot of audio CDs. In fact that was only the third. The first was with Nero and didn't work in my audio CD changer. The second was with Music Match Jukebox and it worked fine. The third is working now. Thats the one I just burned with Nero. I had my Dolby Digital reciever with the volume set for DVDs. OUCH. Dragonslayer started LOUD. Well it works anyway and the player is over a decade old.

quote: I see, so there's no way telling for sure unless I take apart my whole case so as to see what kind of ChainTech MB I have... or just take an ATA 80 cable and be sure. Thanks!

Well if the hard drive is as old as the rest of the machine its probably UDMA 33. If it has loads of Gigabytes and is newer than the rest it could be ATA 66 or even 100. Mine are 30 gigs and 60 gigs and are ATA 100. Anything over 120 gigs has to be ATA 133.

If only Intel would get the Serial ATA standard finished. Thin cables. Longer cables (its a real problem getting all my drives connected with the standard cable length in my large case). Faster transfer rates. Larger drives supported and NO MORE MASTER SLAVE nonsense.

I want Serial ATA NOW. Well as soon as I have some money to spare anyway.

	27-07-2002 08:15									#124
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I thought the Serial ATA is finished. Saw some mobo with the connectors on Tom's Hardware.

	27-07-2002 08:17									#125
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I still prefer SCSI over ATA, esp now that SCSI 320 is just looming on the horizon.

*drool*

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quote: Originally posted by Promethus P22 I never lie and I am always right!

Like every politician yes

quote: If it makes you feel better buy a 80 conductor ATA cable and try it with your Hard Drive, but I will bet $'s to dounuts that it will not make a difference.

I dont mind about the Hard Drive. I trust the guys that made my PC 3 or so years ago (hell they are amongst the biggest companies here, they sell more computers than a baker sells bread, or some other metaphore to that effect ) I trust them to have put there the right IDE cable.

What I worry about is the IDE cable which I bought for the secondary IDE.... I think it is an ATA 33 (the IDE cable) and there is always the chance that the IDE connector is a higher ATA... (not very likely since the PC is old but still)


Maybe I should just buy an ATA 80 cable like you said and just be safe.

(although the burning at 32X speed of a whole CD was really fast).

	27-07-2002 08:27									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Ethelred Thats it.

Okey dokey

quote: Shouldn't. The one I just burned is an 8X because thats the only 74 minute type I have at the moment. I don't burn a lot of audio CDs. In fact that was only the third. The first was with Nero and didn't work in my audio CD changer. The second was with Music Match Jukebox and it worked fine. The third is working now.

Hmmm... so it also has to do with what kind of software you are using I guess...

I hear Nero is good though...

quote: Thats the one I just burned with Nero. I had my Dolby Digital reciever with the volume set for DVDs. OUCH. Dragonslayer started LOUD. Well it works anyway and the player is over a decade old.

Upon my enthousiasm of creating my first audio CD (I'll create much more once I get it right, I have lots of MP3s) I listen to it at full blast through earphones... what I had not predicted were some scratchings that were written in there, and they were 2 times the volume... me poor ears newbie accident

quote: Well if the hard drive is as old as the rest of the machine its probably UDMA 33. If it has loads of Gigabytes and is newer than the rest it could be ATA 66 or even 100. Mine are 30 gigs and 60 gigs and are ATA 100. Anything over 120 gigs has to be ATA 133.

It just has like 4 or 5 Gigas. It is old.

quote: If only Intel would get the Serial ATA standard finished. Thin cables. Longer cables (its a real problem getting all my drives connected with the standard cable length in my large case). Faster transfer rates. Larger drives supported and NO MORE MASTER SLAVE nonsense. I want Serial ATA NOW. Well as soon as I have some money to spare anyway.

Hehe... I used to follow the "evolution" of PCs and PC hardware too...
Now I have kind of cut off from it.
(cant you tell... )

	27-07-2002 08:28									#128
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It is also possible that you got stuck with an UDMA33 HDD. I have seen that before. During times of transition some companies pull that to cut corners, and most people just don't know better.

	27-07-2002 20:44									#129
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Could be. But not because of cut backs or anything. It's an old machine.

But as I said, I'm not preoccupied with that. It's the other IDE cable, the one I got, I worry a bit about. But will figure this out as well, later.

	27-07-2002 20:59									#130
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Or just do what Promethus said and get an ATA 80 anyway. But this is soooo minor now that My Burner is up and running and my MP3s have achieved self-sufficiency

Again thank you very much reds4ever,blackice,Promethus,Ethelred,Urban Ranger

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