03-08-2002 07:14									#61
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I combine the attitude of an American with the alcohol tolerance of a Canadian.

There's no need to be jealous of that, paiktis, I'm sure many American women love bears like Greek men.

	03-08-2002 07:15									#62
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG the US became the world superpower by adopting the best of every country, of every civilization.

Jesus Mark, what have you been drinking?!

What did the US take from Russia? From China? From Bosnia?!

The US became a world superpower by offering immigrants freedom they sought, by developing technology that allowed it to move ahead from most of the world, and by building a massive modern military.

It has absolutely nothing to do with social politics such as the death penalty.

	03-08-2002 07:16									#63
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what would i be jealous of Asher?

your world reknowned canadian intelligence maybe?

	03-08-2002 07:17									#64
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 what would i be jealous of Asher? your world reknowned canadian intelligence maybe?

Nah. You live in Greece, I don't, why wouldn't you be jealous?

	03-08-2002 07:19									#65
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A fine demonstration of said "intelligence"

	03-08-2002 07:22									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Asher What did the US take from Russia? From China? From Bosnia?!

did you see me saying that they actually took something from each and every country? :rolleyes

quote: The US became a world superpower by offering immigrants freedom they sought.... It has absolutely nothing to do with social politics such as the death penalty.

right, so social politics has nothing to do with freedom

ooooook.....

	03-08-2002 07:25									#67
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG did you see me saying that they actually took something from each and every country? :rolleyes

Actually, yes...

quote: best of every country, of every civilization.

quote: right, so social politics has nothing to do with freedom ooooook.....

It does have to do with freedom, except the idea behind the death penalty is what occurs when you lose your freedom in the first place.

Since most Americans don't commit crimes warranting the death penalty, most Americans don't feel it infringes on their freedoms.

You'd have a perfectly valid point if it was legal for the US Government to randomly kill civilians on a regular basis, though.

	03-08-2002 07:27									#68
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It's kinda funny that we have a Canadian and two Greeks arguing over the death penalty in the US and Turkey........

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I'm not arguing about the death penalty I just troll asher.

there's no doubt you're a bunch of uncivilized gun tottin' state killer maniacs. the EU says so

	03-08-2002 07:29									#70
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quote: Actually, yes...

even if you take my sentence literally, there is a myth about chinese immigrants in the US

quote: Since most Americans don't commit crimes warranting the death penalty, most Americans don't feel it infringes on their freedoms.

ah yes, the "it wont happen on me" syndrome. do you feel that this is something americans should be proud of?

	03-08-2002 07:30									#71
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As a Texan I am deeply offended by the actions taken by Turkey.

	03-08-2002 07:32									#72
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG ah yes, the "it wont happen on me" syndrome. do you feel that this is something americans should be proud of?

We're not talking about pride or anything like that.

This discussion is about how you feel the need to troll Americans about every little issue, even when it has nothing to do with them.

You seem to think Americans would care (or should care) what other people in the world are doing. Historically this is not the case, and it's certainly not the case now. I don't see anyone from America saying "Wow, Turkey has done this. Turkey is always right. We shall do this to. Who cares Turkey only did it to get into the EU? Hey, maybe WE should get into the EU! Turkey did it!".

	03-08-2002 07:32									#73
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG even so, there is a myth about chinese immigrants in the US

No myth. They built railroads. If it wasn't for them, we'd have to kill off another nationality after the Civil War.

	03-08-2002 07:35									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse As a Texan I am deeply offended by the actions taken by Turkey.

in the same sense as when Bush said "I'm just as angry as Israel is right now"

	03-08-2002 07:35									#75
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oh come on asher

americans are just trollable. that's why nature created them

	03-08-2002 07:38									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Asher We're not talking about pride or anything like that. This discussion is about how you feel the need to troll Americans about every little issue, even when it has nothing to do with them.

the discussion is about death penalty and the US

the topic is set by the thread starter not by anyone else

quote: I don't see anyone from America saying "Wow, Turkey has done this. Turkey is always right. We shall do this to. Who cares Turkey only did it to get into the EU? Hey, maybe WE should get into the EU! Turkey did it!".

i dont think there are any americans that simple-minded. i dont ask for such a thing

	03-08-2002 07:41									#77
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i think Asher sees "trolls" evenwhen trolls dont exist then.

must be an esoteric urge to defend his masters...(the ones they call him stupid, of course)

stockholm syndrome anyone?

	03-08-2002 07:42									#78
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG in the same sense as when Bush said "I'm just as angry as Israel is right now"

It would have been more clever if he had said Israfel istead of Israel. There just isn't much good music out right now....

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quote: Originally posted by MarkG the discussion is about death penalty and the US the topic is set by the thread starter not by anyone else

I would suggest you stop being so obsessed with America's domestic politics, it's borderline pathetic that a Greek student continually makes topics trolling America.

Makes someone wonder just how much of an inferiority complex someone has!

quote: i dont think there are any americans that simple-minded.

This is tempting quote material.

	03-08-2002 07:44									#80
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 i think Asher sees "trolls" evenwhen trolls dont exist then. must be an esoteric urge to defend his masters...(the ones they call him stupid, of course) stockholm syndrome anyone?

The only people holding me hostage is the Canadian Federal Government, and I hate them with a passion.

And if you don't think this is a troll, well...I think that speaks for itself.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher The only people holding me hostage is the Canadian Federal Government, and I hate them with a passion.

wow... brainwashing technology must have come a long way in the northern states of the US....

	03-08-2002 07:46									#82
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if you see wrong in people around the (more unified every day) world discussing about the policies of the world's superpower, whose actions affect everyone, then how would you characterize the need of a canadian to "defend" the US?

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quote: Originally posted by MarkG if you see wrong in people around the (more unified every day) world discussing about the policies of the world's superpower, whose actions affect everyone

Please explain how the US' policies on capital punishment affect everyone.

Thanks in advance,
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It is human nature I guess.

The right to care about your fellow human being.

	03-08-2002 07:51									#85
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 It is human nature I guess. The right to care about your fellow human being.

So you feel the need to protect the life of someone who murders many people?

What do you say to the people's families of those he killed? "I'm sorry, but this man deserves to watch Seinfeld in his cell for the rest of his life. He doesn't even need to have a job anymore!"

	03-08-2002 07:52									#86
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again you take my statement one issue and apply it to another. you ought to know that this isnt logical

even so, the fact the US refuses to follow the rest of the world on something that is considered as not even needing a second thought, is showing something on how the US sees things....

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 It is human nature I guess. The right to care about your fellow human being.

I think it is more about human nature to whine about whoever is in power in whatever way possible.

	03-08-2002 07:52									#88
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that's very good asher. now you are infact addressing the issue at hand. it would happen sooner or later

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quote: Originally posted by MarkG again you take my general statement and apply it to something specific. you ought to know that this isnt logical

Marky...your statement was regarding the reasons for this thread.
I then apply it to this thread, since that's what you were providing the reason for, and suddenly I'm doing something illogical?

quote: even so, the fact the US refuses to follow the rest of the world on something that is considered as not even needing a second thought, is showing something on how the US sees things....

That's right, it's showing that the US doesn't give a damn what Turkey does.

So remind me about the point of this thread, if not a simpleminded troll.

	03-08-2002 07:53									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse I think it is more about human nature to whine about whoever is in power in whatever way possible.

not unless he's a d!ck