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Originally posted by Asher
What are you talking about?
The US isn't bombing Iraq right now because the last thing it needs is the UN on their case for being an aggressor without provocation in a war. |
so the US cares what the world thinks.
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The situation isn't remotely comparable with domestic politics. |
no, only remotely.
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Not related to domestic politics. Try again... |
you said the US doesn care what the int. community thinks. domestic politics just now entered your mind.
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Bereta_Eder
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Originally posted by Asher
Are you really that slow that you can't figure out the difference between domestic politics and foreign relations?
The US isn't in any kind of bad position in the world with its domestic politics. The second it starts invading countries it needs to be more careful and look at what people think about it.
Two different realms... |
you seem to have skipped some of my posts. you talked about whether the US cares or not what the world thinks.
After being slam dunked into accepting that it does you jump on the domestic "realm" wagon.
In which i already said that it is minor in relation with foreign politics but by the same logic it DOES affect the ability of the US to make the world sympethetic to its pleas or not.
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MrFun
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of Iowa
Nov 2000
time: 23:21
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I was not going to add my two cents to this thread, but because I find myself pitying Mark's lack of participants and popularity in this thread, I decided "what the hell -- out of pity." 
First off, I'm one of those many, many Americans who opposes the death penalty.
But one of my main reasons why I oppose the American system of the death penalty is because of its inherent racist system of injustice.
Secondly, Marks was waaaay off base when he commented that the United States took different parts from every nation's culture. If this was not meant to be taken literally, Mark, then there's a better way to phrase that comment: ". . . . taken many concepts and ideas from the Enlightenment heritage of Europe and Great Britain."
I don't think George Washington was looking at China's Confucisiasm heritage as an inspiration in founding a new government for the United States. 
Thirdly, you are right to an extent Mark. The United States has historically, and presently, been behind other nations in social progress:
1) improvement of working class quality of life in 19th century
2) maintaining slavery when many European nations successfully, or attempted, to abolish their system of slavery
3) denial of equal rights to its citizens, regardless of sexual orientation in spite of such progress in European nations, and Great Britain
4) and of course -- maintaining the death penalty in the face of worldwide changing values that no longer accepts the death penalty
5) and others not listed here, too
But, Mark, this does not mean that the United States is without its strengths and positive aspects.
Even with the things that the United States has lagged behind in the past, and continues to lag behind in other issues, millions of immigrants came to our country because they wanted to improve their lives in ways that were not possible, and in some countries today, STILL not possible.
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