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Swing Low, Sweet Chariots.
Aug 1999 time: 05:21
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quote: But then NZ will have the coveted "underdog" status. |
You already have it. As far as I know seedings are based on the placings in the last RWC so you are third seeds behind Australia and France if that is the case. I’m fairly sure current world rankings are ignored.
quote: shhhhh! Im trying to win some of my gold back... |
Ah okay, mums the word. 
quote: But no I don't think at all the SH referees are better than ours, far from it. |
Pleased to hear it. For a short moment I thought you had gone over to the ‘enemy’. 
Do we want a light pud or a substantial one? I offer “great Bok matches of the last decade without fisticuffs” and “why are Wales so dire these days” respectively.
Or alternatively “the failings of Jonno” and “the failings of Plod” also in that order? 
Hmm I seem to be in a non too serious frame of mind this week. 
quote: With the utmost respect to the Dutch, it's not a terribly interesting country |
I have to say I really enjoyed my tour there. But then that might be because you can hardly tell you are outside the UK. Or it might be because I always enjoy my tours – witness Australia. 
You can speak English anywhere and to anyone and get by in Holland. The Dutch are really nice people as well of course, which helps. Spot on about the language though.
It could however have been much worse – you could have been Fin-yakky da-bar given you reside in NSW (which is far better than OSW IMO) 
quote: All I can say is that the rugby writer's eyesight is better than mine. I wish I could see through the tangles of arms and legs and torsos as well as he can. |
Now come on – we all know that you simply can’t bring yourself to agree with praise of an English referee? 
quote: I've already noted Tamerlin's later clarification. I'd also already assumed he'd erred. I let it pass. I'm a big person. |
Bigger than me – I would have pounced. 
quote: *finbar awaits Havak's post to the effect that: "Sorry, I'm the last chap in the universe with a Beta VCR"* |
I really must find where you put that spy camera! 
quote: I read in the paper today the mad supporter who tackled McHugh is getting quite a bit of support from people. It seems even a SA law firm is offerring to defend him in court for no fee |
Yes I’ve seen some very strange “he had it coming” feedback from the lunatic Bok fringe too. It reflects very badly on the Boks that they have any fans who think like that. What is the suggestion from them here – next time a Bok is carded for a punch send on security to duff the ref up? Ludicrous.
quote: The matter still has to go in front of the IRB, though. |
Who are considered, by the ARU, to be anti-ARU of course?
quote: Therein lies the conundrum. |
Should be a great game for the ‘neutral’.
quote: Havak lives there, doesn't he? |
North East of Old South Wales. No Reds here thank you very much. 
I am off again tomorrow. No this is not a sicky either. Pre-season training trip (right arm strengthening). Hopefully you guys will be happy with a spread come Thursday?
By the way it seems the penalty try was awarded under a solid 'interpretation' of the laws - check here
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970 time: 06:21
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quote: Originally posted by Havak
Do we want a light pud or a substantial one? I offer “great Bok matches of the last decade without fisticuffs” and “why are Wales so dire these days” respectively.
Or alternatively “the failings of Jonno” and “the failings of Plod” also in that order? 
Hmm I seem to be in a non too serious frame of mind this week. |
Top choices! You're an apt pupil! 
quote: You can speak English anywhere and to anyone and get by in Holland. The Dutch are really nice people as well of course, which helps. |
Well, yes, but that's sort of the problem with the place, IMHO. Really really really nice.
quote: It could however have been much worse – you could have been Fin-yakky da-bar given you reside in NSW (which is far better than OSW IMO) |
As I've always said about Wales - take away its green hills and valleys, the singing, the drinking, and what have you got? Bugger all really.
quote: Now come on – we all know that you simply can’t bring yourself to agree with praise of an English referee? |
As I've always said about English refs - take away their whistles, their pig ignorance, their pallid complexions, their pot bellies, and what have you got? Bugger all really.
quote: Bigger than me – I would have pounced. |
As I've always said about ... hmmmm .... the device seems to have run out of steam. 
quote: Yes I’ve seen some very strange “he had it coming” feedback from the lunatic Bok fringe too. It reflects very badly on the Boks that they have any fans who think like that. What is the suggestion from them here – next time a Bok is carded for a punch send on security to duff the ref up? Ludicrous. |
Did you go to Brisbane? If so, you only went to Brisbane. You didn't venture any further west or north. The further west and north you travel from Brisbane the more you strike exactly the sort of thing you're talking about with the lunatic Boks fringe. Ugly stuff. Particularly when you realise it ain't a fringe thing. Which, I suspect, is the case over there.
quote: Who are considered, by the ARU, to be anti-ARU of course? |
I don't think it matters. I expect the IRB will come to the same conclusion - Ben Tune was the least culpable person involved in the mess. It's a pity action can't be taken against the nongs who covered it up. In fact, I wonder if action can be taken against them?
quote: I am off again tomorrow. No this is not a sicky either. Pre-season training trip (right arm strengthening). |
Here he goes with the tautology again! 
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Sydney
Jul 2002 time: 15:21
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quote: Sorry, that doesn't count in any way, shape or form as opera. Or even music, if it comes to that. Okay, I'll concede this much - it counts as bad plagiarisation of music that was very ordinary in the first place. |
Bit of an opera critic, eh? Who says us rugby types are uneducated brutes 
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You already have it. As far as I know seedings are based on the placings in the last RWC so you are third seeds behind Australia and France if that is the case. I’m fairly sure current world rankings are ignored.
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Is this the Zurich thing again? Doesn't matter - when it comes to top teams you just cant rank them, way too much to consider. That's why it only works in Tennis.
Wait a sec - what the hell am I talking about?Hewitt just lost! 
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Yes I’ve seen some very strange “he had it coming” feedback from the lunatic Bok fringe too. It reflects very badly on the Boks that they have any fans who think like that.
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SA can be crazy but that surprised me. But you know what? They're all talk - I didn't see anyone else from the crowd joining in on the attack (thank God)
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North East of Old South Wales. No Reds here thank you very much.
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Say it ain't so ... Say it ain't SO!!! Just kidding Havak. If you we're over there, I could understand your bad impression of Australia. 
quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin
The Rugby coverage is very bad in France and the channel which is scheduling the SH matches is a private one, this channel is even reducing its coverage of the french championship. My father in law is a Rugby fan and has an access to those cable private channels. As his appartment is under reconstruction I can't see all the games scheduled on cable TV until november. 
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That's a downer - at least you'll be ready for the WC and any practice games. You'd think we here in Australia are surrounded by televised rugby because of the culture here but in terms of Super12 you have to pay. 
We get most prominant tests free to air (for some reason not the Europe tour), albiet with horrible commentary. 
quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin
Of course, if you are a soccer fan and as soon as the season has started, you can see at least two matches every week on the public channels. |
Replace soccer with that other form of rugby (which I wont mention for fear of the Havak chat room ordeal ) and that's all free to air has in terms of a regular comp.
One cant complain too much - there are increasing tests these days and not seeing a season comp makes them more special. I'm betting your French comp gets little coverage too ... rugby as a world sport is growing but it still has a way to go 
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Caligastia
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quote: Originally posted by finbar
To be honest, I don't know what Marshall's doing in the team. I haven't seen anything from him of real quality for a long time. I suspect it's the Mehrtens/Canterbury connection that's keeping him there. |
Mitchell probably considers him to be part of a "working formula", but I really think he should get Kelleher more involved. I dont think Kelleher has started a single All blacks game this year.
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It was a puzzle, wasn't it? It was also particularly interesting that Jonah didn't get a run. If ever there were a game that suited his style, that was it. |
I remember watching all those fresh bok players jogging on and thinking "ok now Mitchell has to bring some fresh legs on". A couple of minutes went by, the All Blacks took the lead with their try, and I thought "ok now that we are ahead Mitchell will surely bring some fresh players on to protect this lead", but all we got was Kelleher. Jonah was seen warming up on the sideline, and I really thought he would be brought on for the last few minutes, but no....
I wonder what Mitchell was thinking?
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It will be the miracle of all times. But one thing's for sure - with that many points required, it's going to make for an entertaining match. Death or glory. |
Yep, and I think the Boks are as desperate to win as the Wallabies are desperate to get those 26 points. They have the talent to do it too.
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Mmmm. It's hard to know how much to factor in the fact that the Wallabies need all those points. And they're going to be trying for them, of that there's no doubt. |
They will try for them, but with the Boks being in possession of such fine backs, I think SA will score plenty also.
Havak, when are you heading over to NYC? I could tape the Umaga tackle and play it for you when you get over here... 
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Caligastia
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Can you believe there are actually supporters who defend this guy? In his home town he is looked upon as a hero. How disgusting. He is nothing but a thug.
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