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Originally posted by Ethelred
Whats to explain? The pyramids weren't built by slaves. Thats pretty simple and true.
They were built by Egyptians. Many were profesionals and we have found the where the profesionals lived near Cheops. Its believed that the main moving was done during the period of the year that the Nile flooded the fields. The farmers had to wait till the flood went down. During that time they worked for the Pharoah. Think of it as taxes in the form of labor. |
Thats interesting. Do you have any links?
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:21
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Originally posted by CyberShy
We *could* have chosen another date-line, but we didn't. Seems like most people will agree. And indeed, of course in fact earth has no center. (oh well, it does, but not on the surface).
I have news for you. We did pick a different date line. The date-line is in the Pacific. Its not on the zero line either as that goes through The British Naval Observatory in Greenwhich England. The line you are talking about is ten degrees east of that. Goes right through Alexandria and NOT right through Cheops.
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ethelred, that's not what cs is saying, if i understand him correctly. what i --and he-- are referring to is that pacific date line, which is utterly and completely arbitrary. it is from there that the "westernmost" and "easternmost points" are determined-- because were the globe cut there, the easternmost would be the russian far east, and the westernmost alaska. and going from that, yes, the cheops pyramid may well be the exact center.
but the problem with that is that the dateline there is completely arbitrary, cooked up by some oddball europeans wanting to be the center of the world.
if easternmost and westernmost were determined by the prime meridian, easternmost would be just west of greenwich, while westernmost just east of it. and by that definition, the pyramid would not be in the center of landmass.
that's what i'm saying.
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Gastric ReFlux
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They were pretty smart to build those dimensional stabilizer gates in a desert, which conferred upon them immortality and now a substantial financial dividend through products geared towards the New Age movement.
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Ethelred
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Originally posted by Q Cubed
ethelred, that's not what cs is saying, if i understand him correctly. |
I don't think he does so how could you or I. I now understand what you are saying however.
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what i --and he-- are referring to is that pacific date line, which is utterly and completely arbitrary. it is from there that the "westernmost" and "easternmost points" are determined-- because were the globe cut there, the easternmost would be the russian far east, and the westernmost alaska. and going from that, yes, the cheops pyramid may well be the exact center. |
Easily checked. The continents are really close together there.
Alexandria is ten degrees east of Greenwhich.
From the map I am looking at right now the mid point is right in the B of Lybya not in Egypt.
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/worl...802657_1999.pdf
About five degrees east of Greenwhich not ten degrees. A long ways from the Nile.
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Ethelred
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Originally posted by MikeH
The egyptians were the first people to measure the size of the earth, it wouldn't surprise me to know that they also knew the other stuff and built the pyramid deliberately to those sizes. |
That was an Alexandrian Greek, Eratosthenes. Long after the pyramids were built. It was done in Egypt though. Just too late and by a Greek.
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Al'Kimiya
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One of many new-age theories...
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Of Time and the Pyramids
There is now mounting evidence that the Giza pyramids are much older than the Fourth Dynasty, and that instead of having developed out of earlier primitive pyramids, they were actually the prototypes of the later pyramids, which were really pale imitations. They were clearly never used as tombs, and the technology displayed in their construction was much too advanced for the era of Khufu, about 2600 B.C., but very probably existed in the time of the gods.
Sitchin points out that the most convincing piece of evidence that Khufu did not build the Giza monuments is the so-called Inventory Stela found in the Temple of Isis near the Great Pyramid. The inscription by Khufu makes reference to the pyramid and Sphinx as already standing. And in The Stairway to Heaven Sitchin makes a very convincing case for the fact that the red paint quarry marks referring to Khufu, discovered in 1837 in the sealed chambers over the King's Chamber, were forgeries. The Great Pyramid was built perfectly level and perfectly aligned with the four directions of the compass, with each side at a precise angle of 54 degrees. Says Sitchin, The wonderment only increases as one realizes the interior complexities and precision of the galleries, corridors, chambers, shafts and openings...the locking and plugging systems ... all in perfect alignment with each other... Consider what primitive equipment and tools were available in that period. The Egyptians of that era did not have knowledge of the pulley, or block and tackle. All they had were wooden rollers and levers, and wood was at a premium in the desert. Consider also the immense difficulty of transporting those 2.3 million 200-ton stones from the quarry all the way down the Nile at Aswan. If they cut, moved and placed ten stones per day, it would have taken 632 years to completion. The Great Pyramid still remains the largest stone structure in the world, and probably could not be duplicated today. But for the Anunnaki, it was probably not such a difficult feat. Ra's father, Ptah or Enki, was known as an engineering genius, and Ra is said to have enlisted the assistance of Thoth, the Egyptian god of sciences and of magical powers. This suggests that the Anunnaki might have had the ability to move the massive stones around without benefit of manpower.
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http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue3/ar3stargate.html
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Richelieu
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Gatineau
Dec 2001
time: 00:21
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How about accessibility to the materials in South/Central America? Are there quarries close to every pyramid site ?
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Ethelred
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Originally posted by pchang
The South (and Central) American Structures are smaller and simpler. Still very impressive. Perhaps, moving Large Stone blocks through jungle is even harder than moving it through desert. |
Some are more massive. So it depends on how you consider things larger. Cheops is taller but not more massive then the largest pyramids in Central America.
Can't be much simpler than four flat sides.
They took much longer to build though. Most if not all have smaller older pyramids within them. They would be enlarged upon occasion over generations.
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Lord Merciless
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In 1995, a group of scients and archeologists built a replica(1/10 of the original size) of the great pyramid in three weeks, using 2 few hundred Egyptian volunteers and no modern tools. The original pyramid was built by an estimated 20,000 people and in a 20 years time frame.
Egyptians didn't build their pyramids overnight. Failed pyramids actually dotted the Egyptian landscape. The first one was built almost 500 years before the Great one, and it was a step pyramid. The first non-step pyramid was the "bent" pyramid. It got this name because its slope was abruptly changed from 60 degree to less than 45 degree. It was obvious that Engineers noticed their mistakes and make the correction just in time.
Later pyramid building stopped around 2100BC, not because Aliens went, but because whole Egypt fell into a major social upheaval. Heh, even Romans didn't build anything impressive for a long time after Rome got sacked. Pyramids, the symbol of Pharao's power and their tombs, were ruthlessly pillaged during that period. That could be the reason why later Pharaos didn't build their tombs on the surface anymore.
American pyramids were totally different animals than Egyptian ones. Not were they from vastly different time, so did their intented purpose. The Teotihuacan pyramid was built around 500AD, and most Mayan monuments originated between 600 and 800AD, almost 3000 years after the Great Pyramids! American pyramids didn't spring overnight out of nowhere either, but also had a learning process that stretched for centuries. Archeological evidence showed that they started as simple raised platforms and got taller and taller later on. In Quatemalan jungle, there is an ancient structure resembling something between a raised platform and a fully built pyramid. It is an example of those "learning" pyramids.
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09-08-2002 20:21
For some reason, this really cracked me up. Does this work for all pens, or only for certain ones? Remember that bp pens come with three ball sizes: fine, medium, and heavy.
Great book. 
This suggests a lot more than that, IMHO.
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