16-08-2002 07:19									#1
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I was in school today and one of the things we were working on was a putting locations on a map. this was in world lit. class so understandably it was an easy assignment. One of the locations was Israel, easy enough right? Wrong, 3 people had absolutely NO CLUE where it was. Another location; Washington DC, simple everyone knows where that is! 2 of the kids labeled Washington State instead...

I wasnt sure if I should laugh or worry.

	16-08-2002 07:24									#2
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Um, that's nothing. Many U.S. students can't find their OWN state on a map.

	16-08-2002 07:27									#3
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Many US students just dont care. lol. Its sad but true. Generally they learn that stuff when they start driving around. I mean they take more interest in it.

You know theres a map floating around the net forums. It says "Here be dragons" on itetc. Its very true. I couldnt find North America on a map when I was 16-17. I just didnt care. And I could say most people couldnt either.

	16-08-2002 07:31									#4
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What about you guys in Europe? do you have your share of ignant baffoonz?

	16-08-2002 07:32									#5
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I think students who do well in school should be rewarded with a couple of marijuana joints.

	16-08-2002 07:33									#6
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quit thread jacking

	16-08-2002 07:34									#7
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Hehe, I would have been high all throughout highschool if that were the case...

	16-08-2002 07:48									#8
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Actual student answer:

H2O is hot water.
CO2 is cold water.

	16-08-2002 07:56									#9
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When I was 10 I could draw a political map of Europe from memory.

Of course, I was planning future conquests, so it was just about inspiring my own self-interest...

	16-08-2002 08:03									#10
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It's not funny; it's horrifying. I've heard that 15% of americans don't realize that the Earth revolves round the Sun!

Consider that these worthless morons fit only for soylent green ingredients will, for the most part be allowed to drive, vote, and HAVE CHILDREN OF THEIR OWN!!!

Don't worry.

First order of Emperor Severn will be exterminate adults incapable of long division or finding asia on a globe. Second, I will abdicate, a celebrated and content man.

Vote Severn in '08!

	16-08-2002 08:04									#11
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Just what part of Tennessee is Israel in anyway??

	16-08-2002 08:14									#12
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Adolf Hitler was a WWI fighter ace for the confederacy during the middle ages...

	16-08-2002 08:16									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov When I was 10 I could draw a political map of Europe from memory. Of course, I was planning future conquests, so it was just about inspiring my own self-interest...

i still do that

	16-08-2002 08:16									#14
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NO! youre thinking of George Washington

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Most retarded people are incapable of doing those things you mentioned, Dan...are you saying we should kill the retarded, mein Fuh...er, I mean, good sir?

	16-08-2002 08:20									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Dan Severn It's not funny; it's horrifying. I've heard that 15% of americans don't realize that the Earth revolves round the Sun! Consider that these worthless morons fit only for soylent green ingredients will, for the most part be allowed to drive, vote, and HAVE CHILDREN OF THEIR OWN!!!

Remember, these idiots can vote. That's the problem with democracy.

	16-08-2002 08:30									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Most retarded people are incapable of doing those things you mentioned, Dan...are you saying we should kill the retarded, mein Fuh...er, I mean, good sir?

No, they're not stupid; they're disabled. I mean someone in control of all their faculties who refuses to use them. They must die.

The Fascist wasted far too much time splitting people along racial lines. It would be much more direct just to kill everyone, except your close friends. (I have none, BTW.)

	16-08-2002 08:32									#18
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quote: Originally posted by nationalist Remember, these idiots can vote. That's the problem with democracy.

I concur. But hate the player, not the game. People are the problem, not liberty.

	16-08-2002 08:33									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Um, that's nothing. Many U.S. students can't find their OWN state on a map.

I've read things like this and I must say I never, repeat, NEVER saw anyone that stupid when I was in school. I can only guess that the student who couldn't find their state on the map was a recent immigraint who didn't speak English and whom didn't didn't understand the question. Even poor white trash know basic geography...

	16-08-2002 08:35									#20
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Oerdin, my mom is a teacher, as is my roommate. You're gravely mistaken, unfortunately...

	16-08-2002 08:36									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Even poor white trash know basic geography...

Completely false.

	16-08-2002 08:37									#22
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Question on Street Smarts: "Where is Pearl Harbor?"
Answer: "Boston Harbor."

	16-08-2002 08:37									#23
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Ask them where Switzerland or Luxembourg are, for that matter.

EDIT: gee. hee.

	16-08-2002 08:42									#24
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Jay Leno claims that Jaywalking is real... It doesn't suprise me... Of course, the big chicken never dared do a jaywalking here at Caltech...

	16-08-2002 08:43									#25
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I had a girl in my class that didn't know that Hitler was involved in World War 2. She also thought that Japan was a city in China. Another girl thought that Mexico was part of the U.S. I told her that she was half right.

	16-08-2002 09:18									#26
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When I came to the US, I noticed that most people just weren't as smart as in Russia. Even with all this money. Sure there are a few smart people, but the US doesn't promote their talents at all.....

"Geek" is a very good example. But now I'm threadjacking.

	16-08-2002 09:30									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 When I came to the US, I noticed that most people just weren't as smart as in Russia. Even with all this money. Sure there are a few smart people, but the US doesn't promote their talents at all..... "Geek" is a very good example. But now I'm threadjacking.

The problem is our education system. We want to cultivate good feelings instead of encouraging competetion. We waste 75% of our education money on the bottom 25% of our students. Special Education eats up a monstrous amount of funds, and its ranks swell every year. Furthermore, Gifted children are lumped in with the average kids to avoid "elitism". Those gifted children are then made to feel like outsiders and wierdos by the average students, who out number them. That's where the "geek" stigma comes from.

IMO, our schools need to stop worrying about hurting people's feelings and start giving the gifted students the attention. The bottom 25% are never going to make anything of themselves. Why waste all of the money on them? We should give them a practical vocational education and spend the money on more deserving students. But that would cultivate a, god forbid, intellectual elite in the U.S. We don't want that here. All men are created equal, no matter how stupid the man is.

	16-08-2002 09:47									#28
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Why can't you do both? The school system that I went through had four levels: basic, general, advanced and enriched. The students in each level deserve an education.

	16-08-2002 09:47									#29
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i had a girl tell me that "being a communist was horrible because hitler was an evil man". read that a few times and then know that she mortally opposed all sense and fact i tried to coax into her.

one day when i was bored i asked my sister to draw a map of europe. first off, she only knew about 6 coutries (France, England, Germany, Italy, Spain and Ireland) and she got them all mixed up. It looked nothing like europe at all.

i then told her to draw the US. she first drew NY (where we live), then drew california, then drew Florida, and Texas. she proceeded to fill in areas randomly and label them randomly as well.

Suprising? not really.

and as for the American Education system, i could not agree with you more Nationalist. I was in the upper 12% of my class (just missed top 10%, sigh), and the AP programs we'rent all the different than the regular classes.

I knew of one kid with a small learning disability. He was a great guy and everything, he was just slow to learn. Anyway, the school got him a special aide, and gave him a laptop so he could "keep up" with the class. Again, i knew the kid and i knew he had more mp3s and games on that laptop than he had educational crap.

IMHO (and i'm a cruel elitist f*cker mind you) public schooling should be availible to everyone up to age 14. At that time you take a test every year to see if you stay in public school. The test shouldn't be "easy" in any respect. It would encompass everything one would learn that year.

If you failed the test you would be ousted from public school for the year. you would be forced to be a laborer and / or goto a private school / get a tutor so you can retake the test you failed next year.

Public school should be for those who want to learn. I never understood why some of the kids showed up each day just to fail over and over. eventually most of them STOPPED showing up, but others didnt.

I have a friend who failed every class this year (his senior year). even Physical Education. He's currently supposed to be in summer school and is going to have to repeat most of the year anyway.

He has no intention of going back. and tax dollars, school supplies, text books, and teacher attention were all wasted on him. no point in that.

	16-08-2002 09:51									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Why can't you do both? The school system that I went through had four levels: basic, general, advanced and enriched. The students in each level deserve an education.

my school had 4.

"Special Ed"
"Regulars"
"Honors"
"AP (Advanced Placement)"

but they continually tried to merge classes. the more AP students a school has, the mroe tax dollars they get (in NY anyway). They shoved people that obviously didnt belong there into AP Physics, AP Calculus, and to a lesser extent, AP Government.

People who couldn't do simple algebra were holding back my calculus class by weeks. some other classes finished a full 3 weeks ahead of ours and began review. our class had two days of review, one of which was a weekend.