18-08-2002 05:07									#1
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I am trying to find out which religion most apolytoners believes into...

	18-08-2002 05:27									#2
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hey two freemasons here on poly ...

	18-08-2002 05:27									#3
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Atheists are 40% of Apolyton, thus far (only 5 votes). Perhaps Im more at home then I thought.

Edit: Freemasons I thought was a 'secret' organization, not a religion? Or is there a religion specific to the organization?

	18-08-2002 05:30									#4
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Atheism isn't a religion, therefore I refuse to vote.

	18-08-2002 05:31									#5
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Why can't anyone spell Buddhist correctly?

	18-08-2002 05:38									#6
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We need an agnostic option.

	18-08-2002 05:42									#7
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Well, Freemasonry is not only a secret society (not THAT secret, btw), but it also have a specific spirituality. To sum up, we could say Freemasons are builders, and they build according to "god" plans, the Great Architect. This spirituality involves, like a religion, certain beliefs about morality. But on the other hand, Freemasonry spirituality doesnt have the same use than religion. Religion have been made, IIRC, to organize people's time : lifetime (baptem, weeding, death, etc...), day time - with the hours of prayers, day in the year (St Jean, Christmas instead of the winter solstice, etc...), week time, according to grecoromans deities, then adapted to christianism, etc... So we cant really say Free masonry is a religion, actually...

	18-08-2002 05:44									#8
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Kramerman, on some polls atheism was anywhere from 50-60% of the forums....

I voted atheist... and I am proud of it. But atheism isn't a religion. It is no religion.

	18-08-2002 05:47									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Aeson We need an agnostic option.

Just vote atheist

quote: Atheism isn't a religion, therefore I refuse to vote.

atheism: The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
the poll is what is your religion, and atheism is the I have no religion answer. You dont have to be difficult.

	18-08-2002 05:50									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Pandemoniak Well, Freemasonry is not only a secret society (not THAT secret, btw), but it also have a specific spirituality. To sum up, we could say Freemasons are builders, and they build according to "god" plans, the Great Architect. This spirituality involves, like a religion, certain beliefs about morality. But on the other hand, Freemasonry spirituality doesnt have the same use than religion. Religion have been made, IIRC, to organize people's time : lifetime (baptem, weeding, death, etc...), day time - with the hours of prayers, day in the year (St Jean, Christmas instead of the winter solstice, etc...), week time, according to grecoromans deities, then adapted to christianism, etc... So we cant really say Free masonry is a religion, actually...

I see. I just always thought that freemasons tended to be wealthy, well educated upper-class folk who tended to be Deists, but that is what my old US history book made it seem, IIRC.

	18-08-2002 05:51									#11
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Where's my Jainist option?

	18-08-2002 05:57									#12
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I don't know if agnostics can be classified in the same genre as atheists. I think agnostics believe in a higher power but don't commit to any one religion whereas atheists don't believe in a higher power.

I'd vote for agnostic or "Amalgamation" option if there was one.

quote: Originally posted by loinburger ---"Hook'd on fonicks phuk'd me up."

Now THATS freekin funny.

	18-08-2002 05:59									#13
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no

what you think is agnostism is deism

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quote: Originally posted by frankychan I think agnostics believe in a higher power but don't commit to any one religion whereas atheists don't believe in a higher power.

Definition of "agnostic," off of dictionary.com, is:
a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
b. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.

I think what you're describing above is Deism or something.

quote: Now THATS freekin funny.

Found it on a bumper sticker the other day. It fit so nice, I kept it.

	18-08-2002 06:01									#15
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"Judaist (Zionist)"

First off not all Jews believe in Zionism(I do, but some sects dont......), and "Judaist" isnt a religion, Judaism is......

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nod, thanks. Then I guess I'll just go w/the "amalgamated" option instead.

	18-08-2002 06:26									#17
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It's a Lithuanian posting the poll, so they prolly have different spellings. In other words, chill on the ***** shiz.

I'm Catholic, in a manner of speaking.

	18-08-2002 06:31									#18
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"Judaist (Zionist)"? I'm not voting in any poll that can't even get the names of the religions right.

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quote: Originally posted by Mr. President "Judaist (Zionist)"? I'm not voting in any poll that can't even get the names of the religions right.

English is probably Sonic's 3rd language or something...relax.

	18-08-2002 06:49									#20
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Okay, okay, sorry. There, I've voted now. Sorry again.

	18-08-2002 08:01									#21
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In JESUS CHRIST is whom I believe..see my attachment

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	18-08-2002 08:15									#22
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Ive learned to put my faith in only to places, for my own good. 1) myself. If i let my own dumb ass down, I cant blame anybody else but myself. And 2) science/mathematics. It has yet to either let me down or be uninteresting

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	18-08-2002 09:51									#23
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athiest, though it's not a religion

	18-08-2002 09:54									#24
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Deist, though it's not atheism.

	18-08-2002 11:00									#25
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You forgot Wiccan.

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No, he purposefully ignored it.

	18-08-2002 12:34									#27
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As an atheist I have no problem calling it a "religion," in the sense of being fundamentally a-rational and thus a matter of faith. I'd even say atheism is the purest form of faith, since as a negative it is by definition unproveable, whereas each of the other faiths can be proven if their particular pixie actually shows up someday.

	18-08-2002 15:12									#28
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Why is Baptist included separately from Christian Protestant, but none of the other Protentant subdivisions are?

And atheism is most certainly a religion since it makes a statement about the universe which cannot be proven.

	18-08-2002 15:13									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen "Judaist (Zionist)" First off not all Jews believe in Zionism(I do, but some sects dont......), and "Judaist" isnt a religion, Judaism is......

I agree to the first statement. Not all jews are zionists (and vice versa...) Zionism is a political-religious ideology made political practice (kinda like imperialism or sharia laws)

But 'judaism' is the proper term for the religion of the jewish people, right? Based on the teachings of the Old Testament and the Talmud?

To answer the thread question: I´m not religious and don´t go to church. But since I can´t be arsed to leave the Church of Sweden I´m technically a Christian Protestant.

	18-08-2002 15:18									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Rogan Josh Why is Baptist included separately from Christian Protestant, but none of the other Protentant subdivisions are? And atheism is most certainly a religion since it makes a statement about the universe which cannot be proven.

Seventh-Day Adventist is also

and I agree with the second paragraph

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