19-08-2002 01:18									#1
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This is for general discussion of issues regarding city planning. Please feel free to post whatever here, as long as it is in some way related to the city planning.

I will be checking it freaquently. I will make new threads or post links to existing ones here regarding significant issues:

City Planning Orders

An urgent matter by spiffor, describing a situation regarding a stray persian settler in our territory.

Name region #1 by the regional manager OPD. Come one, come all, now is the time to name a major geopolitical area of our land!!!

Vote for your choice for the region 1 name!!!!!Here!!!

Name suggestions for Region 4 (Paris area) Here !!!

Name suggestins for Region 3 (persian fronteer) here!!!!!

Last edited by GodKing on 23-08-2002 at 02:15

	19-08-2002 01:23									#2
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I am proposing to split the duties of this position among several regions. For more on my rational on this, see this

edit - da*n cat. Stepping on the keyboard at the wrong time.

link here. .

OPD will be managing region #1, which will include the following cities:

Termina
Apolyton
Tassagrad
BHQ
chartres (occupied)
orleans (occupied)
rheims (occupied)

Region #2 I will be managing:

Del Monte
Timeline
Gaia
mycenae (occupied)
boston (occ...
washington
chicago
argos

Region #3 Rendelnep will be managing this region.

Seeberg
Napolyton
geofront
Ubergorsk
Loveshack
munich (o)

Region #4 jdjdjd will manage these cities - all cities are currently occupied

paris
marseilles
rouen
lyons


Please note that these regions are preliminary and are subject to shifting as the game progresses (to keep our sence of mapping in order). For example, timeline will probably be switched to region #1 once more of the occpied cities come under our control.

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	20-08-2002 01:22									#3
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OPD, rendelnep and jdjdjd have all agreed to manage their regions. Each will be coming up with a name in the near future (how they do this is up to them). If you have any suggestions, please post them here or if a seperate thread has been created, I will shortly post a link to it in the first thread. Remember, you can also link to this thread (instead of having to search through umteen pages) through the topped directory thread.

Region number 2 I am leaning toward calling "state of insanity", however that just doesn't seam to fit terrably well. So help me (and our entire nation) out and suggest something.

GK

	20-08-2002 01:38									#4
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I'm going to add an addendum to my current statistics to include stats specific to the regions, if you don't mind.

	20-08-2002 01:57									#5
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Sure thing. Help yourself. Let me know if you need anything.

	20-08-2002 02:05									#6
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Ok, it's up. I've kept all the stats in the top post of my thread. I included population and economic data on the region...
It's interesting. At this point Region #1 is still by far the most powerful, and while Region #3 has more people than #2, they produce the same amount of income.

I'm looking forward to the regions being named.

	20-08-2002 05:47									#7
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reddawg, I fear that my provence could be the main cause for all that diesease. Frankly we need lots of land development in my provence. I 'll have to start moaning at the public works minister to get some of the bloddy jungle cleared.

	20-08-2002 06:41									#8
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rendelnep, yes it looks like a signifcant amount of the pollution comes from your region... lol. but the statistics are supposed to be unbiased and i didnt wanna spit propaganda TOO much... but youre right. the focus of public works seems to be in that area... before we have population dying off from disease! we're already 12th in population, which is pathetic.

	20-08-2002 08:33									#9
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I humbly propose the following region name

The State of Pina Colada.
(It's capitol is after all Del Monte!)

	20-08-2002 09:15									#10
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Godking :
We all know we must go to Uber Isle as soon as possible. We have the galleys to do this, and they'll be avalable soon. But we'll also need a settler, and none is ready, none is being built (except the Del Monte one)
In what city do you intend to build this settler ?

Since it'll probably be in Province #1, I suppose OPD can answer that too.

	20-08-2002 16:59									#11
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How many settlers are required and in how many turns.
One settler will be built in region one soon.

	21-08-2002 01:43									#12
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The settler should be ready ASAP, as the gallies are done with transporting the troops for the franch war, and will soon be coming home to do the exploration of uber isle.

This all assumes Uber Isle is worth settling.

The first wave will send a ship to the isle, do some prelim exploration (to make sure it is worth sending over a settler). Then the ship comes 1/2 way back. If it survives, we send the settler out (OPD is proposing to be built in termina, ready in 5 turns), jump ship 1/2 way and get to the island. If we have a spare spear or warrior to go along, exploration will be that much sooner. First production for the new city will either be a warrior or a worker (depends on the need) followed by either a harbor (to get the lux. on the island) or other settlers, as most appropriate. Assuming the island is uninhabited, defensive units will be warriors at first (as they are 1/2 cost) then over time upgrading to spears, pike or muskets (whatever we have). If of a large size, we will REX the island while focusing on internal development on the mainland.

Figure 3 turn for the ships to get home. 3 more to have one cross, and explore, 1 to come 1/2 way back, then 1 to send the settler over. Thus in 7 we need the settler, and in 9 we have a new city (and perhaps a new provence?). With no ship losses. Longer if we need to increase the fleet again.

If uber isle is small (1 -2 cities) I will probably assign to region 1 (with OPD). If large, I shall keep control and make into a new provence when we have enough people over there. Ashame we don't have a chance at the lighthouse, would take much of the risk out of this. Oh well........

	21-08-2002 02:08									#13
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May I propose something?
IMHO, if the French war goes very succesfully and Region 1 (damn I want these named soon! lol) gainsthe three new, former-french cities, it will be very largely and grossly dominate Apolytonia politics.

so what im saying is this: if Uber Island only provides 2 cities and you assign them to region 1, then i think those french cities should be added to region four.


But personally i think whatever the case is, whether large or small, Uber Island should be a 5th region/overseas department!

	21-08-2002 02:48									#14
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The current regions are very fluid. I would like each to have around 10 cities. Each region should also be divided in some way by geographical features - I am leaning toward rivers as once all the jungle is cleared, it will all look like the same grasslands.... Eventually I think with this split, timeline would be better off geographically in region 1 as well, but for now it will stay in 2 to keep balance. (Because of its river location, timeline will be a powerhouse as it will not have to waste 30 odd turns in the future building aquaducts as most of our cities will).

Those 3 french cities will be useless for a long time. So I have no real reason to worry about them this term. Also, I doubt we will get all of them in this war (although I do hope we will). If region 1 does become overfull, then I will start shifting cities from one region to another, but that will probably be late in the term and I will try to set them up for the next administration.

I want names soon also. WIll make life much more fun in the Land of the Banana.

	22-08-2002 00:34									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Reddawg so what im saying is this: if Uber Island only provides 2 cities and you assign them to region 1, then i think those french cities should be added to region four.

I'd like to see a viceroy appointed to manage all of uberisle even if it's just for the sake of role play.

	22-08-2002 01:52									#16
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Pina Colada Provence. I like it. Any more?

	22-08-2002 02:37									#17
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quote: Originally posted by OPD I'd like to see a viceroy appointed to manage all of uberisle even if it's just for the sake of role play.

I agree with you. But maybe we could come up with more original names than "viceroy" or "governor" if it's for the sake of gameplay. Mmmmh, random ideas could be "Chief Islander" or "Uberseer" (these ideas needed about 30 seconds to come Please give beter ideas than those )

	22-08-2002 02:55									#18
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Scout leader?
Just kidding.
Wait, I got it: Jedi Master.

Seriously now: Chief Colonization Supervisor? Overseas Settlement Coordinator? Chief of Overseas Exploration and Settlement?
Just my two Apos.

	22-08-2002 03:07									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I agree with you. But maybe we could come up with more original names than "viceroy"

I just thought the reference to colonization would be cool.

	22-08-2002 03:41									#20
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i really like Uberseer! lol

	22-08-2002 09:36									#21
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GodKing, I have the Minister Thread for the 5 turn plan topped now, so you can post your stuff there now, and I will edit it into the plan. This will make it easier for the Prez to hold a turnthread.

	22-08-2002 12:59									#22
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I suggest we build a temple immediately in Chiquita (the city we'll found with our Del Monte's settler). Indeed, we'll have a spearman in Chiquita, and we have high risks of culture flip there : Chiquita will be close to Athens, and a neigbouring town has expanded its boders, meaning some Greek squares will be within Chiquita's radius.

	22-08-2002 17:38									#23
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Why wasn't the temple in Napoleton rushed the last turn?
It is now 19 shields away from completion.

	23-08-2002 00:20									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I suggest we build a temple immediately in Chiquita (the city we'll found with our Del Monte's settler). Indeed, we'll have a spearman in Chiquita, and we have high risks of culture flip there : Chiquita will be close to Athens, and a neigbouring town has expanded its boders, meaning some Greek squares will be within Chiquita's radius.

hi ,

, indeed , it should be done asap (!)

while we are at it , we should look at other border cities also (!)

have a nice day

	23-08-2002 00:50									#25
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I will try and download tonight the latest and update everything.

Regarding pop rushing, I am generaly opposed to this as it causes unhappyness in our population for a long time, and it is hard enough to keep them happy at this level. I always do leave it open as an option, but just as one that must be weighed heavily.

I know how our culture will be very important, particularly as we wish to culture flip cities, not have them flip on us.

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quote: Originally posted by GodKing I will try and download tonight the latest and update everything. Regarding pop rushing, I am generaly opposed to this as it causes unhappyness in our population for a long time, and it is hard enough to keep them happy at this level. I always do leave it open as an option, but just as one that must be weighed heavily. I know how our culture will be very important, particularly as we wish to culture flip cities, not have them flip on us.

hi ,

pop rushing is indeed no good , ....

it could be that that city gets in trouble , so we should wait until a form of government that allows us to "buy" , without people getting angry , ....( people in the city hé)

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	23-08-2002 02:32									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber Why wasn't the temple in Napoleton rushed the last turn? It is now 19 shields away from completion.

I was also surprised that this didn't happen. It will be about 20 turns before it reaches a size 3?

	23-08-2002 02:38									#28
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As the only real suggestion for the name for region 2, and as I like it, it shall be hereafter called the Principality of Pina Colada (or PPC).

Thanks to roadcage for the suggestion.

	23-08-2002 16:00									#29
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quote: Originally posted by OPD I was also surprised that this didn't happen. It will be about 20 turns before it reaches a size 3?

hi ,

, indeed , ....

so , when is it going to happen , .....

ones in a while , ones in every thousand years they actually refuse to take a city in revolt , .....

we just cant risk it !

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	24-08-2002 02:51									#30
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Godking/Rendelnep:
I suggest that Ubergorsk build something other than a worker. We need to grow population here, to keep this city culturally strong -- to prevent flipping and, indeed if possible to contribute to causing flipping. The city already has two workers clearing jungle, and a third within -- enough manpower, I assume, to keep clearing moving along at a pace to parallel population growth. Rather than a worker, could it not be building either a library (for culture) or, better yet, a barracks (to assist defense in the likely event of an attack)?