31-08-2002 05:22									#1
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is gaming is banned in greece now?

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=220579

http://www.sogamed.com/forums.php?i...rum_id=1&type=1

few more sources -

Go to http://www.worldlingo.com/products_...translator.html and translate all the articles of www.netcafe.gr

http://www.gameland.gr/

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/n...t.asp?aid=17011

http://www.intergame.ltd.uk/news.htm

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/26041.html

Last edited by pg on 31-08-2002 at 05:50

	31-08-2002 05:36									#2
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One of the more intelligent posts:

quote: I am the greek guy again, i just want 2 explain the reason goverment did this. It was the fact that they couldnt control gambling machines like Reel Magic and some other gambling places using pc's for gamble. Cause the guys owned such shops where using a switcing tricks and making those pc's look like surfing or gaming pc's and goverment couldnt control em they desided 2 close everything that uses electricity and u can play it !!! This inlcudes games at mobile phones, all game consoles, all coin ops, all pc games, all net games like yahoo chess etc, and ALL GAMES THAT EVEN NOT USE MONITOR OR TV BUT USE ELECTRICITY !!! EVEN IF U PLAY THEN AT YOUR OWN HOME !!! FFS FFS FFS FFS FFS FFS FFS FFS FFS FFS FFS FFS !!!!!!

	31-08-2002 05:52									#3
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This game banning thing reeks of a hoax. I mean seriously, the concept itself is purely ridiculous. The government will just lose tax revenue when businesses close down and people will rather ware or buy their consoles and games from abroad. So I guess the possible income from the gaming industry wasn't considered enough?
Also, I would've thought we'd have seen a thread about this on Poly already, if the ban is already in effect. If this is just a motion, then I might buy this. If it is a motion, it probably won't pass.
And I'd really like to see just how this ban is enforced.

	31-08-2002 05:55									#4
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quote: 2002-08-28 21:09:31 the law was voted 1 month ago. today the cops "rushed" in the netcafes and arrested young children playing cs and other games.. -****'em, and their law..

Suuuure. Whatever. I'm SO believing this.

	31-08-2002 05:57									#5
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sort of

the law is mainly aimed against internet cafes that have games on computers

but, sure the law bans all gaming everywhere, with the exception of games that are not electrical or electronic
ah yes, and with the exception of existing casinos

meanwhile, the association of internet cafes is responding to the first single arrest(no jail, he had to pay a fine) of a cafe owner with complaints to the police on computers with games in public services
the next move should probably be to make a complaint about the prime minister's mobile phone!

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	31-08-2002 06:01									#6
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Yeah, but what does Tom Tomorrow have to say about it?

Oh wait, he's too busy making fun of America to realize that Europeans are just as stupid sometimes.

	31-08-2002 06:02									#7
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Just to clarify...is it legal or not for you to play Civ3 anymore, Mark?

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	31-08-2002 06:12									#8
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Apoc, Civ3 is illegal unless i can prove that my computer is 100% mechanical

Kassiopeia, read this (from the first post)
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/n...t.asp?aid=17011

Felch, to each his own....
i'm sure if Tom Tomorrow was a greek he would do something about this....

	31-08-2002 06:13									#9
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Why not just stage a book burning? It makes the same amount of sense.

	31-08-2002 06:16									#10
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And if we snitch, does that mean you go to jail, not that we would. Where would we post and make fools of ourselves?

	31-08-2002 06:33									#11
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG Apoc, Civ3 is illegal unless i can prove that my computer is 100% mechanical Kassiopeia, read this (from the first post) http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/n...t.asp?aid=17011 Felch, to each his own.... i'm sure if Tom Tomorrow was a greek he would do something about this....

Just read the story. Are you sure this isn't a Greek version of "The Onion"?

It doesn't say anything about playing in your own home.

	31-08-2002 08:39									#12
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This is what happens when you don't have a Bill of Rights that actually gets upheld.

	31-08-2002 08:49									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski It doesn't say anything about playing in your own home.

no it doesnt

the law does.

the law of course has this in as a measure against someone turning his house into a gambling club

it of course doesnt target normal gamers at their homes except from the fact that this is not stated in the law

so i'm not expecting the police to knock on my door any moment now but i'm might be illegal

	31-08-2002 08:49									#14
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd This is what happens when you don't have a Bill of Rights that actually gets upheld.

the US bill of rights says something about civ3?

	31-08-2002 08:51									#15
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Greece is a silly and backwards nation, don't you think?

	31-08-2002 08:53									#16
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quote: the US bill of rights says something about civ3?

The US Constitution and US Bill of Rights set up limits on the federal government. The federal government, because of these documents, could not ban a videogame.

	31-08-2002 08:55									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Greece is a silly and backwards nation, don't you think?

you cant always be perfect

at least we dont bomb other people by mistake

	31-08-2002 08:56									#18
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG you cant always be perfect at least we dont bomb other people by mistake

You're too busy hunting down N17 or whatever.
Or buying nair.

	31-08-2002 08:57									#19
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd The US Constitution and US Bill of Rights set up limits on the federal government. The federal government, because of these documents, could not ban a videogame.

the federal goverment wouldnt deal with such a thing anyway as it is more busy detaining it's citizens for months without a charge....

	31-08-2002 08:58									#20
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or killing them for vengence

or leting them kill each other

	31-08-2002 08:59									#21
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG you cant always be perfect at least we dont bomb other people by mistake

Asher is Canadian, they don't have the capacity to bomb people. You have to make fun of their aluminum frigates or something.

	31-08-2002 09:00									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You're too busy hunting down N17 or whatever.

yeap, we're hunting down terrorism instead of terrorizing afgans from doing open marriage celebrations

	31-08-2002 09:00									#23
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quote: the federal goverment wouldnt deal with such a thing anyway as it is more busy detaining it's citizens for months without a charge...

Good point, but then again it was Greece that arrested those British tourists for taking pictures of airplanes - not exactly your finest moment either, eh?

	31-08-2002 09:00									#24
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG at least we dont bomb other people by mistake

Unless they happen to be Turks.

quote: the federal goverment wouldnt deal with such a thing anyway as it is more busy detaining it's citizens for months without a charge....

This a perfect example of what happens when your inferiors get caught doing something assanine. They try to point out the faults of others rather than admit thier own stupidity.

	31-08-2002 09:01									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse Asher is Canadian, they don't have the capacity to bomb people. You have to make fun of their aluminum frigates or something.

i would never make fun of canadians. Dan would hunt me down

	31-08-2002 09:02									#26
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Good point, but then again it was Greece that arrested those British tourists for taking pictures of airplanes - not exactly your finest moment either, eh?

and they were trialed for just that and not spying as they might should be and they are at their homes now knowing they should not take pictures in places where there is a sign that says "dont take pictures"

	31-08-2002 09:05									#27
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They made a simple mistake - you should have just sent them on their way and be done with it.

But yes, you are 100% correct about the US holding people without trial. That's ridiculous.

Now, enough of this threadjack.

	31-08-2002 09:10									#28
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so you're saying that if i go outside of US army base and start taking pictures, a gentle female soldier with a sweet voice will come to me and say

"oh please, mister Apolyton, dont take pictures here. please, sir, stop"

ok, cool

	31-08-2002 09:11									#29
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The last time I was on a US Military based they encouraged people to take pictures.

This was a while ago at the Alameda Naval Air Station though.

I've also got pictures of me standing on the decks of the USS Carl Vinson and USS Constellation, too.

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	31-08-2002 09:14									#30
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He was making fun of the American half of Asher... which deserved it.