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DeathByTheSword is offline DeathByTheSword
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i myself always tech trade with everone in the beginning as soon as i am the first with new military technology ones the game is on its way i tend to withhold that but not that much in another game i know but i would speak out loud here i look out much more what i trade....but with SMAC not that mcu

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Re: tech trading... I say we should be willing to trade any tech except military ones or ones for SPs we're working on.

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I agree w/GeneralTacticus on this one.

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I'd agree too, with the addition that certain economic technology should be restricted. It may be inevitable that everyone will learn to use boreholes, but we should get a head start on exploiting them.

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Good point. Maybe we could add important SE techs to the list as well.

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well IF the empath Guild would like to build such a list for use in the game it would be easy you are an advice counsel arent you?

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I would give economic technologies like Boreholing to other factions. There's a big chance their society won't know how to use them anyway.

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i'd like to point out that we can technically already build boreholes (although they'd be useless)

should i set up a tech trading poll?

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yes please it hasnt be official but i can be for infogathering very usefull

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well IF the empath Guild would like to build such a list for use in the game it would be easy you are an advice counsel arent you?



Er, what?

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I say we strong arm him and extort him for all he's worth.

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We need to build a real military first, not just a police force and a few scouts.

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but he has an empty base! he'll give in to anything!

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Good point. But, do we really want to go breaking the treaty we just signed?

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it wouldn't be breaking the treaty. we have nothing to lose! he'll either say

"is that a thread, GeneralTacticus? i suggest you pronounce vendetta and be done with it, for i am intimidated!"

or

"By all means! We will gladly share with you our knowledge of $TECHNAME"

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But if he doesn't give in, the threat was counterproductive, as he'll merely be pissed off and we'll gain nothing.

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so? we don't lose anything either

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We lose the possibility of other negotations for a little while (he won't want to talk), and we also lose some of his goodwill.

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in my experience, the AI will normally give in in this situation.

but, you're the boss DoFA.

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We don't even know he has anything we want yet. I'm open to persuasion on this issue, but I can't continue this debate just now.

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we know he has something. if he was out of tech, he would have offered his world map instead of a tech. at the very least, we can get his maps

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I thought he cut us off after he gave us that last tech, so we couldn't tell?

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yes he cut us off for me that is always a sign that he hasnt got anything...we havent got or visa versa

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hey, let a pro handle this

Morgan should be dealt with a friendly matter. Give him a few techs that will benefit him somewhat and trade for tech that will enhance us a great deal. AS soon as we get enough military power, we demonstrate our power to him and coerce him into giving us whatever the heck we want.

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We need to build a real military first, not just a police force and a few scouts.


TKG and I are thinking the same way, build a strong internal force first, THEN build a feasible antagonist attack force.

The police force will help keep our drones in line as well as our populace and the scouts will scan the horizons for new conquests...

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Do you not consider Drones to be part of the populace?

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I consider the Drones to be a dysfunctional part of the populace that need to be reeducated and rehabilitated so that they can be more productive citizens.

If the Drone's riot, then they are destabilizing the society and therefore are NOT part of the populace.

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Switch to Planned and ruin Morgan's economy.

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How would we ruin Morgan's? Why do want to?

 
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