30-01-2004 18:40									#1021
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@ Sparrowhawk

Given Egypts last message, I propose that IF you need to fill in for Straybow next turn, you move the Hittite unit that has been blocking the Egyptian road for two turns now.

	31-01-2004 04:19									#1022
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Hopefully Straybow will be able to play his turn and move the offensive unit in the appropriate direction, but if not, I will move it unless someone posts an objection ( and I don't think that will be Kull )

	31-01-2004 05:02									#1023
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk Hopefully Straybow will be able to play his turn and move the offensive unit in the appropriate direction, but if not, I will move it unless someone posts an objection ( and I don't think that will be Kull )

That would be VERY safe assumption!

	02-02-2004 05:49									#1024
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Not sure if anyone has sent a PM reminder to Stefen yet or not, but just in case I loaded the game and did the "contol-n" thing for the Persians.

Hopefully not an indication of things to come but two players have needed me to control n their turn just in this round alone .

Here is the save:

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	02-02-2004 23:56									#1025
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Thanks, Sparrowhawk. All others: I'll be in time next time. Sorry.

	03-02-2004 00:09									#1026
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No one has played yet, (and the save has not yet been downloaded) so you could still play your turn, just ignore my save.

Note to other players I am PMing this message to Stefan as well.

	03-02-2004 00:59									#1027
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Yeah Stefan!

Persia awaits thee, oh wise King

	03-02-2004 01:08									#1028
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Alright, thanks for the second chance (just don't give me too many of 'em!).

Kyroushata founded on the shore of Lake Urmia. A Hittite settlement was made out near the Black Sea.

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	04-02-2004 04:36									#1029
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Peaceful the greek went on with doing nothing
Enjoy!

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	04-02-2004 16:30									#1030
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The demonstrations in Knossos almost turn to riots: " We want a king ... we want a king ... or at least a gracious queen*".

* This is supposed to be a joke; not a summary of the opinion of the author.

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	07-02-2004 22:15									#1031
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Hoping that like Stefan, Straybow will return and play his turn so that this save is not needed, but I loaded the game and pressed "control-n", for Slowthinker to play (and complete those FOUR new wonders while he is at it )

Note to the Egyptians: The offending unit has continued on his way, and looks forward to seeing you again in the future....the distant future that is.

* Sparrowhawk the eternal sub

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	07-02-2004 23:01									#1032
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Thank you Sparrowhawk. Until Straybow returns and present himself, I think we might not to wait 72 hours for him. So La Fayette could send you an e-mail after each his turn.

I must spread my wonders out a little, otherwise somebody will really catch my cheating out one day.

	09-02-2004 23:22									#1033
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6 wonders next turn ...

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	10-02-2004 01:40									#1034
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The Assyrian Empire continues to prosper.

To the Hittites we send word that our scouts have payed a brief visit to their Capital, Hattusas. They have left the vicinity of the city, but could not yet clear the city-radius. Our Horsemen come in peace, and they have been carefull not to stay on lands that are worked by the Hittite farmers.

Traders from Nineveh have embarked on a ship for a long voyage. They hope they will be able to trade with the Greek and the Minoans. Assyria asks both nations if the traders are welcome to their shores.

Assyria congratulates Persia with their recent settlement on lake Urmia. We hope it will prosper, and bring wealth to the Persian people. Assyria looks forward to trade with this outpost, and other cities. For this purpose, an Assyrian scouting party on horseback has transpassed the Persian-Assyrian border south of Lake Urmia.
These Horsemen have strict orders not to interfere in any domestic affairs within the noble Persian Empire.

Desert tribes pay a tribute totalling 50 gold to the mighty Assyrian Empire.

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	10-02-2004 10:34									#1035
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Like an ill wind, fearful news from the Eastern Wastes blows into Memphis. A ragged scout has entered the Halls of Pharoah, bringing news of a vast Barbarian Horde. He served with a force of Egyptian charioteers who entered what appeared to be a deserted village, only to find themselves surrounded by bandits beyond counting, a vast army that seemed to spring up from the sands themselves. Sent forth by his commander under cover of darkness, the messenger was lucky to escape with his life - and the fate of his unit is as yet unknown. But as the tale spreads through the streets and alleys, the heartrending sounds of weeping and wailing reveal that their wives and mothers expect the worst.

And harken to this Imsu of Assyria! Our messenger reports his unit had earlier encountered Assyrian charioteers in the area, and they too may be at risk! May the Gods grant victory to our armies in this dark hour!

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	13-02-2004 01:46									#1036
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Cyrus XXIX of Persia, please check your e-mail.

What about Straybow? I noticed he is MIA also in succession games. Shouldn't we try to search for a sub? I suffer if I imagine the freezed Hittite civilization.
Or isn't he allied with another civ so well so that his kingdom may be managed by the ally?

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	13-02-2004 08:42									#1037
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having his Civ managed by an Ally sounds like a plan to me, I assume his civ is falling behind by the "control n" plan.

	14-02-2004 04:56									#1038
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I am allied with the Hittites and ready to do my best, but IMO it would be more fun for Sparrowhawk to become the new leader of the Hittites (after a few more desperate messages sent to Straybow).

	14-02-2004 21:18									#1039
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quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker What about Straybow? I noticed he is MIA also in succession games. Shouldn't we try to search for a sub? I suffer if I imagine the freezed Hittite civilization. Or isn't he allied with another civ so well so that his kingdom may be managed by the ally?

He hasn't posted on Apolyton since mid-January, but given his long history here it's unlikely that he's gone for good. Probably safe to assume that his computer problems returned with a vengeance, and he's just temporarily off-line. I don't object to an ally moving his units for a short while, or to Sparrowhawk taking a more hands-on approach in the interim (should he be willing). As to the long term, let's give Straybow another month (until the Ides of March) before we plug in a permanent replacement.

	14-02-2004 21:51									#1040
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I have no problem with an ally playing the Hittite civ for a month or so.

	15-02-2004 23:07									#1041
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Officials of department of Diplomacy System say most civilizations in the world can build caravans. Therefore we are releasing this declaration:

We ask all merchants, cities or governments that plan to send trade goods to one of our cities that they settle each delivery of goods with our Ministry of Trade. Each incoming caravan must ask for a license and pay a duty if license is granted.
One of reasons for this provision is that your delivered goods may block our workers and they cannot produce our own commodities for supply. Also our market specialists are prepared to help you to maximize revenues from your caravans.

Our merchants are instructed to act similarly and to ask for licenses in your cities.

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	16-02-2004 20:24									#1042
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Godin was secured. Explorations go on. Nothing can stop us. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Sooner or later.

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	17-02-2004 00:47									#1043
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We have a new wine-princess!
In the wine duell, the old one felt drunken from the chair. She is still snorring under the table.

Else, nothing new in greek

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	17-02-2004 00:53									#1044
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Yay Kengel

	18-02-2004 05:15									#1045
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The people in Knossos are getting so angry and so restless that no other name can be chosen to describe what is happening: this is a Revolution.

Fortunately, Minos has managed to get the marvellous building completed just in time and most people are so happy looking at that wonderful Lighthouse that Minos will certainly be chosen as king when the revolution comes to an end.

However, the completion of the other 6 wonders under building has been postponed to next turn

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	18-02-2004 05:25									#1046
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(just in case)

when there is a winking smilie at the end of a sentence, it means that joke was intended


(Minos, winking)

	18-02-2004 21:12									#1047
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If a genuine sub takes hold of Hatta, Assyria would welcome a online meeting, so that Assyria can transfer a group of Slaves to Hatta, and a full peace can be signed with both Hatta and Minos.

	19-02-2004 04:00									#1048
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I don't know how fast the Hittite problem will be solved this turn, but I can play only in next approx. 12 hours, then I won't be able to play up to Wednesday.

I e-mailed SparrowHawk and asked him to read this thread: I think SparrowHawk as a sub would be the best solution.
La Fayette as a sub is not so good solution, especially because Kull posted some objections against his full control over Hittites (or did I grasp you badly, Kull?):

quote: Originally posted by Kull I don't object to an ally moving his units for a short while, or to Sparrowhawk taking a more hands-on approach in the interim (should he be willing).

I think if LF will only move units and not to control cities etc., the white civ will suffer similarly as with Ctrl-N. Then I would suggest to post in The Official Players Needed Thread (for a provisional sub).

	19-02-2004 04:24									#1049
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SparrowHawk as sub is definitely the best solution IMO.
I cross my fingers.

	21-02-2004 20:59									#1050
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quote: Originally posted by SlowThinker La Fayette as a sub is not so good solution, especially because Kull posted some objections against his full control over Hittites (or did I grasp you badly, Kull?): I think if LF will only move units and not to control cities etc., the white civ will suffer similarly as with Ctrl-N. Then I would suggest to post in The Official Players Needed Thread (for a provisional sub).

(Sorry - been away all week!)

I don't have a problem with an ally moving the civ for 4 or 5 turns, it's just not a desirable long term solution. As to posting for an interim player - that's not a bad idea.