19-09-2002 22:15									#31
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Okay, so here's the question. If the genocide was committed in the waning days of the Ottoman Empire and in the begining of the Turkish Republic, why are people protesting art from the begining of the Ottoman Empire? Hell, it's not like the Greeks never engaged in genocide.

The art of the Ottoman Empire is among the most beautiful ever created. They saved the Hagia Sophia. The Blue Mosque is probably the most beautiful mosque in the world. Your hatred of the Turks is insane.

	19-09-2002 22:16									#32
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they are violating our air space on top of everything and we have top drive them out every now and then.

what possible shame coiuld we have in front of this montrocity that was and still remains Turkey!

	19-09-2002 22:18									#33
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Shi Huangdi, the cultural destruction of a people is also considered genocide. If you forcably turn Kurds into Turks, you are destroying a culture (though this is certainly perferably to simple extermination). The Turks have been attempting to genocide the Kurds by whiping out their villages, they language, they names, etc. This has only changed very recently.

	19-09-2002 22:18									#34
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why? because the blue mosque is beautiful?

	19-09-2002 22:23									#35
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quote: what possible shame coiuld we have in front of this montrocity that was and still remains Turkey!

You still suffer from the psychic self abuse of a conquered people. Don't worry. You will grow out of this infantile response in time and forge a relationship with Turkey without the dangers of antipathy.

	19-09-2002 22:25									#36
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no we are not. turkey is a threat TODAY.

cyprus, air violations need i go on?


it;s like saying you suffer from 11 sept complex today -

	19-09-2002 22:27									#37
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plus, and apart from that, what's there to like? mongol savages?

	19-09-2002 22:28									#38
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Hatred is always greatest when the relations are the closest: I wonder how many Greeks can 'prove' they have to turkish blood in thier background?- I wonder how many Turks can prove they have no Greek blood? My guess, not many- you can live next to each other for almost 1000 years and not have gotten 'busy' with each other in all that time.

	19-09-2002 22:28									#39
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cursed is the ground they walk on

*spits*

	19-09-2002 22:30									#40
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turks have some greek blood (very little, say a drop or two) from the jenissares, we have none.

and we didnt live together for so long.

those mogol savages came late to these parts.

	19-09-2002 22:40									#41
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yes you have, and so do bulgarians and serbs
you are all turk, not slav

croats are aryans

seriously, recent reseatrch shows that slavs never passed the river Sava, and that there is alot of anatolian (turkish) genotype in south balkans

almost none in croatia. we only fought the bastards (we love them now )

	19-09-2002 22:45									#42
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you subhuman slav!

Greeks have no turkish blood. Is like saying pasta has mustard.

	19-09-2002 22:49									#43
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 turks have some greek blood (very little, say a drop or two) from the jenissares, we have none.

And your proof of this comes from what genetic study?

quote: and we didnt live together for so long.

From at least 1072 many greek, if you trace your ancestry back to Byzanine times and before, where living under Turkish rule- hmmm, 930 years is not a long time?

quote: those mogol savages came late to these parts.

You are leaving a lot out paiktis- are you assuming all the resident of Anatolia where greek before the Turkish conquest? What about non-greek peoples livng there,perhaps even before the Greeks ever went to Anatolia? What about population transfers by the multiple empires that held those lands, like the Persian and Roman, even the Macedonian one? The fact is Paiktis that I serioult doubt anyone in the part of the world can prove they are not some sort of 'mutt' unless they can prove that their ancestors have not been living in the area for centuries.

	19-09-2002 22:52									#44
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marriages were considered a sin with turks, so the only mixture is done by the jenissares, greek infants which were forcefully removed from the loving arms of their crying mothers to be raised as turkish soldiers (and even them they killed turks because such is the strength of the greek BLOOD!!!)

so turks have few greek blood, greeks have none.

	19-09-2002 22:53									#45
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 you subhuman slav! [/q] aryan more aryan then germans actually [q]Greeks have no turkish blood. Is like saying pasta has mustard.

I ll try to look up that link I am refering to

	19-09-2002 22:55									#46
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You all eat the same food. You all look alike. As far as everyone else is concerned, you're the same people with two different languages and relgion.

	19-09-2002 22:59									#47
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so is all southern europe, and northern europe respectively, your point?

vet dont bother with propaganda articles from the inferior turks and slavs (Serbians excepted)

	19-09-2002 23:03									#48
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and were talking about turkey's CRIMES and what a bastard "nation" ( u cant really call mongol savages that) it is to everybody

	19-09-2002 23:06									#49
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really it is a cancer of the region and must be removed.

	19-09-2002 23:14									#50
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I m sure that when they achieve superb purenes of Greece (99% Greeks) they will be as tolerant and peaceful as anybody

btw, "mountain turks" pfffff, this is just copycating Greek practice of having all sorts of greeks

yes, folks, there are no "turks" in greece, but there are "greek muslims"

we are all greek
I am a catholic greek

	19-09-2002 23:19									#51
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yes they are muslim greeks! we accept them, no sweat.

	19-09-2002 23:21									#52
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and there are even catholic greeks yeah, in the dodecanese. no sweat either.

all greeks.

we are a democracy, not killing eachother like croats and turks.

Peace!

	19-09-2002 23:24									#53
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sorry, i didnt hear you?
did you say you are a catholic greek? really?

	19-09-2002 23:30									#54
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yia (=health=bye) for today

	19-09-2002 23:39									#55
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yes, see you later you peleponesian turk

I think you were looking for this one btw

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	19-09-2002 23:53									#56
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I think Paiktis is just mad because his father was a Turk. He has some self-loathing issues.

	20-09-2002 00:08									#57
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I mean get your facts straight for once Imran...


...the term is greek Muslim, not Turk

	20-09-2002 02:00									#58
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If you want to blast Turkey for what it is doing today, fine. Don't blast Turkey for the acts of Selim the Grim. Hell, the Ottoman Empire was multicultural. Every Sultan after Mehemt IV (Kosem's sons, herself a Greek slave girl) were part Greek. At least three of them were half Greek. After the third of Kosem's sons was Emperor, they were never more than half Turk.

	20-09-2002 02:09									#59
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hey Paitkis, didn't some Greek cities like Thessaloniki(sp?) used to have a Turkish majority? What happened to all those Turks living Greece?

	20-09-2002 03:03									#60
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Population transfer, aka, ethnic cleansing.